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Re: General Advice - Secrets to VCE Success
« Reply #165 on: January 13, 2010, 03:13:15 pm »
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I thought you were in year 9 now?? Me confused ><
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« Reply #166 on: January 13, 2010, 03:24:25 pm »
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Im in accelerated classes so I have year 8(start of school), 9, 10, 11(start of VCE), 11+ and 12 (end of VCE)
Wow that's cool, what school is that? MGS? Never heard of it before heh
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« Reply #167 on: January 13, 2010, 06:33:12 pm »
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Im in accelerated classes so I have year 8(start of school), 9, 10, 11(start of VCE), 11+ and 12 (end of VCE)
Wow that's cool, what school is that? MGS? Never heard of it before heh

0.o MGS only do VCE in Y11 and 12, there's not even 1/2 in Y10 unlike many other schools.
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Re: General Advice - Secrets to VCE Success
« Reply #168 on: January 13, 2010, 06:44:29 pm »
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Im in accelerated classes so I have year 8(start of school), 9, 10, 11(start of VCE), 11+ and 12 (end of VCE)
Wow that's cool, what school is that? MGS? Never heard of it before heh

0.o MGS only do VCE in Y11 and 12, there's not even 1/2 in Y10 unlike many other schools.

Can you do Chinese 1/2 though? I know that most Year 11 Methods students at MGS don't do 1/2, but skip directly from Year 10 to 3/4, but what about Chinese?
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Re: General Advice - Secrets to VCE Success
« Reply #169 on: January 13, 2010, 06:48:17 pm »
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Year 10 maths must be very good at MGS to allow so many students to skip 1/2 and do methods 3/4 in year 11.
I wish I got to do 3/4 methods last year.  would have taken a lot off the workload this year.
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« Reply #170 on: January 13, 2010, 07:00:06 pm »
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Can you do Chinese 1/2 though? I know that most Year 11 Methods students at MGS don't do 1/2, but skip directly from Year 10 to 3/4, but what about Chinese?

I recall a schoolmate saying that he did 1/2 in Y9 (or 10, I forgot), but nothing happens in 1/2. There's an advanced Chinese stream that starts in Y9 that goes on to do 3/4 in Y11, so I guess they do 1/2 beforehand.

Year 10 maths must be very good at MGS to allow so many students to skip 1/2 and do methods 3/4 in year 11.
I wish I got to do 3/4 methods last year.  would have taken a lot off the workload this year.

It's not that many, it's only one class - 15-20 students.

Also, is it really neccesary to do 1/2 in order to do well in 3/4? And is it actually so amazing to achieve a high score in 3/4 without doing 1/2? IMO they're flawed beliefs that require examination.
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Re: General Advice - Secrets to VCE Success
« Reply #171 on: January 13, 2010, 07:09:14 pm »
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Im in accelerated classes so I have year 8(start of school), 9, 10, 11(start of VCE), 11+ and 12 (end of VCE)
Wow that's cool, what school is that? MGS? Never heard of it before heh

0.o MGS only do VCE in Y11 and 12, there's not even 1/2 in Y10 unlike many other schools.
Heh yeah I don't know much about other schools programs, assumed an elite school like MGS would do it
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Re: General Advice - Secrets to VCE Success
« Reply #172 on: January 13, 2010, 07:41:12 pm »
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@kyzoo: It isn't necessary to do 1/2 in order to do well in 3/4, but 1/2 sorta builds the foundation towards 3/4. If you have that foundation already, then there is no reason why not doing 1/2 should be a disadvantage (as in your case :p). But seriously, most people find that even though they may know the 1/2 course already, it's prob better to refresh your memory and just sit through the classes.
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« Reply #173 on: February 07, 2010, 08:44:37 pm »
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If I were to give everyone doing VCE this year and in the future one tip it would be to NOT NEGLECT YOUR SACS! One very common perception amongst students is the 'SACs don't really matter, as long as you do well in your exams it will scale up'. Although this proves to be partly true, scaling of SACs from your exams will not necessarily 'save' you. Poor performance in SACs will not be totally ammended for with even flawless exams. The scaling process is quite complicated, with cohort performance and personal performance being just some of the factors which contribute to final SAC scaling. A lot of people from my school have fallen to this trap, and they deeply regret not trying for their SACs. SACs not only provide 33-50% of your final study score, but they are also a very important REVISION TOOL. I cannot stress this enough. SACs are the perfect revision tool for final exams. You will definitely notice at the end of the year when studying for final exams the difference between a subject which you have tried for SACs and another for which you havn't. It almost comes to the case where for some subjects, if you study hard for SACs, it is possible to not even study for the final exams (don't get me wrong you should still study for final exams). Anyway, good luck to everyone for this year ;)

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Re: General Advice - Secrets to VCE Success
« Reply #174 on: March 01, 2010, 07:56:13 pm »
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currently i am doing yr 12, subjects i am doing is English, Revolutions, Psychology, Further Maths, Math Methods.

i dont really know how to go about the study load, how to organise time, and how to study for subjects. for now i been just completing the set hw. any advice is appreciated
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Re: General Advice - Secrets to VCE Success
« Reply #175 on: March 08, 2010, 11:37:52 pm »
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Please don't neglect your SACs.
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Re: General Advice - Secrets to VCE Success
« Reply #176 on: July 17, 2010, 09:28:09 pm »
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What I don't understand is why so many students are so caught up on the perfect score. Sure 99.95; fantastic, great, awsome, inspirational, think of the pride, the achievement... not to denigrate the score but it's a score. Who I really look up to is individuals who try their personal best. They don't have to get perfection, just their best. A measurement of ones best can only come from the inside of such an individial.
Those who do no homework or study but get amazing scores, I can't exactly say that i'm not jelous, but it sadens me to see such potential wasted. Yes you have amazing ability but your cheating yourself if you think it's enough to bludge on that potential. Inventions and discoveries often happen by accident, but many are based on a collection of thoughtful processes from diligent individuals with passion for a subject or process.
The ATAR score, it's a number it dosn't define you. If you have had to sacrifice many essential aspects of your life in order to study, well then you too are cheating yourself. While it would be nice to get all expenses paid into uni and a boarding college (I would be amazingly happy), I can't neglect the benifit of economic struggle. for example moving out of home, living with new people, living off of noodles or lentles during uni teach an individual how to budget, and essentially how to live with independance.
Honestly if you get into the course you want to get into then there is no point in worrying about the few marks you have missed. As a year 12 this year i have found failier to be extremily eye opening, not pleasant, rather unfarmilliar and terrifying. I have made some massive mistakes and errors that I can never go back and fix, but, well you live, (Though I did contemplate suicide :S). After such mistakes if you chose to figure out where you went wrong you will learn.
I always though (untill this year) that I wanted to get a 99. But now i realise not if it is at the expense of a life. I have a job, I have friends, I have leadership comitments, I study. Though I have given up structured sport which I really miss. I realise that the balance must exist for true growth, not everything must be sacraficed for acedemia.
My study habits are not typical, I have a lot of trouble keeping focused, I have a comprimised family unit, financial difficulties, as well as my own mental and body health issues. I have spent lots of time trying to learn from others, reading how others did it but it is just not applicable to copy the life of another. We all have our own needs, and circumstance and that is something that is difficult to change. 
I study after school at Mcdonalds with a long black coffee and strangely the chaos that surrounds me in that booth does not distract me. Living in a rural area I have 2 bus options as to how to get home, 6pm or 8pm. I just can't concentrate at home, i've tried and tried but it rarely works.
Year 12 is hard and to get the marks that are your best possible you have to study. Some people slip through the system with their amazing memories and such but by doing this surely they are missing out on the essential skill of how to learn. I hate year 12 in the notion of its stifled ridgidity. As a student you can rarely make your own discoveries, and if you choose to it is generally at the expense of your scores in other areas :( we are therfore stuck in a system of learning about the past. Though the past does have its inherant value, and we must learn such essential principles sometimes I just want to dicover whats happening now, to tangibly access, to do my own research and present a peice of work which I can be proud of. Sadly in year 12 there is little time, and thus we are required to use our brains in regurgitation rather then analytical thought.
I think doing a language is extremily benificial, not for the mark up but for its cultral aspects and futre direction. I love Japanese, although people see it as really hard I see it as a fun outbreak from my other subjects, Japanese allows me to learn about another culture, and comunicate in a way I would have never though possible.
VCE isn't what defines a person, universities are accecible, scholarships are there and if you have a passion, regardless of your ATAR you have to strive to achieve it, even if that does mean back entries. Nothing in life comes easy and by complaining about such hardships, your only wasting time that could be spent fixing or manipulating your environmetn to give yourself the best possible outcome.
The thing that gets to me most about VCE is the ranking. i've become a different person under this system, rather than florishing as a young adult, I feel I must comply to a number to beat my cohort, it hurts to fail, it hurts to be beaten and it hurts others if you gloat about a score thats higher then theirs. But thats life...
Education dosn't stop at year 12, year 12 is just a mechanism for people to florish or crash, both of which help such an individual to rationalise their capabilities and individuality into a possible pathway that will make them happy. I want to be a ivet and work in animal welfare, and there is no way I will let a number get in my way.
n closing stress less, find your passion and jump the hurdles that life puts in front of you. 
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« Reply #177 on: July 17, 2010, 09:51:46 pm »
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^ Wow... that's very deep and well thought
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Re: General Advice - Secrets to VCE Success
« Reply #178 on: July 17, 2010, 11:00:31 pm »
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:P It's been bottled up. hehe year 12 the time for rage :D
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« Reply #179 on: July 17, 2010, 11:36:10 pm »
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yep very good post
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