Muhammed mentioned in the Bible and Torah.

[pi]

Oh oh, I've got a good question now mainly for Christians.

So the 'virgin' Mary gives birth to a baby and tells you she's a virgin. Now if someone you knew gave birth to a child and told you she was a virgin would you believe her?

Just on this, me and a christian friend had a really funny argument on how 'jesus was [allegedly] the world's first surrogate baby'


*continue discussion*

[enwiabe]

Oh oh, I've got a good question now mainly for Christians.

So the 'virgin' Mary gives birth to a baby and tells you she's a virgin. Now if someone you knew gave birth to a child and told you she was a virgin would you believe her?

Just on this, me and a christian friend had a really funny argument on how 'jesus was [allegedly] the world's first surrogate baby'


*continue discussion*

The better joke is that the virgin mary is the best lie a woman has ever told.

"oh fuck. I cheated and now I'm pregnant and we've never had sex so he'll KNOW."

*2 hours of scheming later*

"... erm, honey, GOD GAVE ME A BABY!"

And so christianity was born

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[enwiabe]

Like I said, it's something to aspire to. Learning Torah is the greatest of all G-d's commandments, and is the primary purpose of a Jew in this world. That being the case, the more the better, even beyond 20 hours a day if possible.

Yeah, how's that working out for Israel? Was it god's intention to drive Israel's economy into the dirt by the epic economic deadweight that is all the chareidim in their pathetic one dimensionality spending all day reading a fairytale at the expense of actual hardworking Israelis?

[Russ]

You'll both know more about it than me, but I'd think that more important than dropping religious education is that fact that Israel's economy could benefit from not refusing to deal with the surrounding nations.

Oh oh, I've got a good question now mainly for Christians.

So the 'virgin' Mary gives birth to a baby and tells you she's a virgin. Now if someone you knew gave birth to a child and told you she was a virgin would you believe her?

Well the standard of proof is a lot higher now than 2000 years ago.

The better joke is that the virgin mary is the best lie a woman has ever told.

Reminds me of this: http://lesswrong.com/lw/m8/the_amazing_virgin_pregnancy/

[Truck]

You'll both know more about it than me, but I'd think that more important than dropping religious education is that fact that Israel's economy could benefit from not refusing to deal with the surrounding nations.

Oh oh, I've got a good question now mainly for Christians.

So the 'virgin' Mary gives birth to a baby and tells you she's a virgin. Now if someone you knew gave birth to a child and told you she was a virgin would you believe her?

Well the standard of proof is a lot higher now than 2000 years ago.

The better joke is that the virgin mary is the best lie a woman has ever told.

Reminds me of this: http://lesswrong.com/lw/m8/the_amazing_virgin_pregnancy/

You'd find it's more an issue of the surrounding nations refusing to deal with Israel. On the other hand, as enwiabe said those charedim are the fastest growing demographic in the country and in an economic sense the biggest problem - if they don't start working and get off welfare it's only going to fuel more tension and bring the economy down.

[Yitzi_K]

Like I said, it's something to aspire to. Learning Torah is the greatest of all G-d's commandments, and is the primary purpose of a Jew in this world. That being the case, the more the better, even beyond 20 hours a day if possible.

Yeah, how's that working out for Israel? Was it god's intention to drive Israel's economy into the dirt by the epic economic deadweight




 that is all the chareidim in their pathetic one dimensionality spending all day reading a fairytale at the expense of actual hardworking Israelis?

The charedim sitting and learning all day are what makes the world continue to exist. אם אין תורה אין קמח, as they say.

[Yitzi_K]

Getting back on topic, muhammud is mentioned in the Torah.

Deuteronomy chapter 13, look it up.

[onur369]

Muhammed (Pbuh) is mentioned in the Torah, but Jesus, Moses and all other prophets are also mentioned in the Qur'an.

[Thu Thu Train]

So... what this means.... is that somewhere along the way both religions were the "same" and then they verged off at different points to follow different prophets?

[enwiabe]

Like I said, it's something to aspire to. Learning Torah is the greatest of all G-d's commandments, and is the primary purpose of a Jew in this world. That being the case, the more the better, even beyond 20 hours a day if possible.

Yeah, how's that working out for Israel? Was it god's intention to drive Israel's economy into the dirt by the epic economic deadweight




 that is all the chareidim in their pathetic one dimensionality spending all day reading a fairytale at the expense of actual hardworking Israelis?

The charedim sitting and learning all day are what makes the world continue to exist. אם אין תורה אין קמח, as they say.

Tell me any tangible way in which they do anything to help the world. At all.

[vexx]

Oh oh, I've got a good question now mainly for Christians.

So the 'virgin' Mary gives birth to a baby and tells you she's a virgin. Now if someone you knew gave birth to a child and told you she was a virgin would you believe her?

Just on this, me and a christian friend had a really funny argument on how 'jesus was [allegedly] the world's first surrogate baby'


*continue discussion*

The better joke is that the virgin mary is the best lie a woman has ever told.

"oh fuck. I cheated and now I'm pregnant and we've never had sex so he'll KNOW."

*2 hours of scheming later*

"... erm, honey, GOD GAVE ME A BABY!"

And so christianity was born

hahaha this is actually true though.. i don't understand why so many people are able to believe such an extreme event simply by word of mouth.

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[FromBaghdadWithLove]

learn torah 20hours a day, its a exaguration obviously, it means u study the book in detail.

[Yitzi_K]

Incorrect. There genuinely are people alive today who study 20 hours a day.  Rav Elyashiv goes to sleep at 10.30 and wakes at 2 am, and doesn't stop learning in his waking hours.

[enwiabe]

Incorrect. There genuinely are people alive today who study 20 hours a day.  Rav Elyashiv goes to sleep at 10.30 and wakes at 2 am, and doesn't stop learning in his waking hours.

And they're all a useless burden on Israel.

Seriously, how selfish is it to sit and read a book all day and expect other people to subsidise your ridiculous lifestyle?

What a scourge on society.

[FromBaghdadWithLove]

hmm intresting Yitzi, do jews pray 5 times a day or something like muslims... ? like is their daily prayers or something?