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[alchemy]

Does anyone know if it's in any way possible to enroll in a winter intensive subject if the self-enrollment date has passed but teaching hasn't begun yet?

[basketger]

does anyone know if deans honours list ranks your cumulative WAM or your average mark for the year?

[silverfox]

does anyone know if deans honours list ranks your cumulative WAM or your average mark for the year?

Not sure if it's different for other degrees, but with Science they base it on your WAM for the same year-level based subjects. So say you're a second year, to be eligible you need to have completed at least 62.5 points worth of second level Science subjects within that same year, then take the average of those.

[basketger]

Not sure if it's different for other degrees, but with Science they base it on your WAM for the same year-level based subjects. So say you're a second year, to be eligible you need to have completed at least 62.5 points worth of second level Science subjects within that same year, then take the average of those.

Thanks!

[umelbkert]

Nope, Georgy emailed us this morning saying it was out. I can see the marks there now officially.

Just to be clear, we are talking about introductory micro, as in econ10004. I'm certain the marks are not yet out

[alchemy]

Just to be clear, we are talking about introductory micro, as in econ10004. I'm certain the marks are not yet out

Oh right, makes sense

[beaua]

Heya,

I am quite confused about the amount of 3rd level subjects that may be selected for the BSc.

In my mind, there seems to be a contradiction between:

• What the study planner says: "No more than 112.5 points of level 2 and 3 Science".
• What the course website says: "At least 75 points at Level 3" and no mention of a limit for the amount of 3rd level subjects.

My major (mathematical physics) has 6 level 2 subjects (75 pts).

The course website doesn't place a limit on the amount of 3rd level subjects one may take but according to the study planner I can only take 3 level 3 subjects in addition to the 4 as apart of my major. Which one is correct (if either of them are  )?

[stolenclay]

I'm not sure I understand your question... Are you asking why your study planner seems to have placed an extra constraint on your Level 3 science subjects that you can't seem to read anywhere in course/major descriptions?

You may wish to see if there's a distinction between breadths and elective slots on your study planner and whether your desired 4th Level 3 subject (in addition to the compulsory Mathematical Physics ones) can be placed in those slots. Make sure you read breadth and elective requirements to see if there's effectively a further limit on your Level 3 science subjects or something.

If your desired combination of subjects follows all the applicable rules, it will usually fit in your study plan (perhaps only after careful consideration of which subjects go where). Study plans are fairly standardised within a single course, while majors within BSc can be quite different, so it's possible there was some oversight in how they laid out the study plan. I would find it surprising though, since neither the BSc course nor the Mathematical Physics major are new pathways.

[beaua]

I'm not sure I understand your question... Are you asking why your study planner seems to have placed an extra constraint on your Level 3 science subjects that you can't seem to read anywhere in course/major descriptions?

Yeah, that's it! Why does the study planner place a 112.5 point limit on the amount of level 2 and level 3 science subjects I can take when there is no mention of that limit within the course website/brochure?

You may wish to see if there's a distinction between breadths and elective slots on your study planner and whether your desired 4th Level 3 subject (in addition to the compulsory Mathematical Physics ones) can be placed in those slots. Make sure you read breadth and elective requirements to see if there's effectively a further limit on your Level 3 science subjects or something.

Ah, I can indeed place 2 science subjects into the breadth/elective slots which will give me 4 level 3 subjects on top of the 4 for my major, which is exactly what I was after. Thank you!

[dx1sy]

Does anyone know whether giving consequential marks apply to uni marking schemes?

[dankfrank420]

Does anyone know how deans list actually works? Like what subjects are included in the calculation etc.

[stolenclay]

Does anyone know how deans list actually works? Like what subjects are included in the calculation etc.

Not really. I fleshed out much of my own speculation here, but times change, and no faculty is under any obligation to be fully transparent about what happens. It's pretty frustrating, to say the least, if the Dean's Honours List is something you aim for, but in the grand scheme of things this is a minority of the cohort.

My new thought is that they create a ranking from taking the average of each eligible student over the Level-\(X\) subjects that have been passed by the time they compile the lists for Year \(N\) (i.e. some time after Year \(N\) Semester 2 and before Year \(N + 1\) Semester 1). In particular, if you thought only subjects from 2018 mattered for the 2018 DHLs, you could be in for a surprise (if this is how it actually works).

[notes3075]

A half-rant/half-advice-seeking post (from a UoM BCom student):

So...on ATARNotes, especially in the results thread, I see plenty of people averaging high 80's and even in the 90's in a semester's work, even in 2nd- and 3rd-year with much harder subjects, irrespective of the discipline. And it seems that they've done that whilst also having a part-time job and a decent social life, while I'm sitting here typing this with an 84.3 WAM, a few friends who I only see at uni and nowhere else, no involvement in societies (CSS, FMAA, etc.), and no job, apart from an internship at a boutique consulting firm for a month - only because the MD knows me personally. Not to mention that I keep overestimating my final grades by around 5-10 marks half the time - although I have scored 83 or better in 10 subjects out of my 14, and have 11 H1s (I have 2 H2Bs and an H2A that are responsible for dragging the wam down).

The main issue is, that I don't waste anywhere near as much time on social media and clickbait as last year, and I certainly do feel that I've worked a lot harder this semester than any previous semester. But I feel that some of the effort has gone to waste, having made careless mistakes in all 4 exams this semester (making careless mistakes in life has been a part of me since childhood), and recording my lowest semester wam in my degree (83) - albeit by less than 2 wam points.

I was aiming for Dean's List this year, but I feel that it's out of my reach now. So to those who are on Dean's List...I (and perhaps plenty of other ATARNotes users) would like to know what it takes to reach your level. Is it all genetics and natural selection, or is it some other formula of productivity, efficiency, and memorisation? Or maybe it starts with a 99+ ATAR and years of being studious, where the foundations for effective learning are already laid out?

And also, is it poisonous to internally set high (and maybe a tiny bit unrealistic) standards for oneself? I feel like every 90+ score I've got (4x) has come from just taking it easy and not thinking about the end result, i.e. "Just Do It" - Nike. Maybe the pressure makes people choke in the exam...

(on a sidenote: I did spend half of my life trying to be a professional sportsperson, during which I did the bare minimum when it came to studying. But after quitting - for undisclosed reasons - I like to think that I've caught up to the rest of my peers to a decent extent)

Sincerely,
2nd-year BCom student

[alchemy]

what does it mean when it says "Waitlisted class" on the timetable? this is for selecting a winter subject btw which I just registered for

[sweetcheeks]

what does it mean when it says "Waitlisted class" on the timetable? this is for selecting a winter subject btw which I just registered for

Is there a quota for the subject?