UoM General Chat

[LeviLamp]

I think UniMelb says you are considered for the Dean's List upon completion of every 100 points at a certain year level?

[aaackk]

Isn't the rule just completing 100 points thoughout the year or something if I recall correctly? So that would mean 8 subjects the standard. I assume that overloading 10 they would just average 8 and use the other 2 for the year after?

how would they choose which two to not include in a given 100 point selection? assuming they dont take it as a running total average

[lzxnl]

Completion of 100 points, not crediting? So my UMEP could still be counted towards that?

I don't think I'd even be eligible for it then. My plan this year only has 5 level 1 subjects.

[Hancock]

I'm fairly sure that 100 point rule means that by the end of 1st year, you should have finished 100 points. By the end of 2nd year, you should have finished at least 200 points, etc.

[charmanderp]

There are a great many science subjects in which marks of above 85 are also extremely rare, I assure you (and have actual data to back up my claims for two of them). The mode of assessment has a pretty big impact on scores, as does the exact material, but the huge range of science subjects means individual anomalies probably get dampened down. I wouldn't be surprised if arts had a very similar Dean's List mark to science. I'd assume biomedicine has a higher average due to the high competition of students for a graduate place and the low number of anomalous subjects like Calculus 1/2 in *first year* that dramatically pull down the first year average.

Idk I'm just going off what I've seen here, in that I know quite a few science first years who scored 90+ in the popular first year subjects (Chem 1&2, the Bios, Physics 1&2, ESD) and extremely few Arts students who scored above 85 in anything (although perhaps Science students just like to brag more ). The quantitate nature of science subjects is one factor, but also for several Arts subjects they actually contrive to give scores below 85-90 (something I've been told by lectures/tutors), for reasons unclear to anyone.

[LeviLamp]

At first year level most of the sciences see a decent number of 90+ scores; however, two of the subjects I'm taking next year had a 1% 90+ rate in 2012 (Animal Structure and Function and Comparative Animal Physiology) which seems certainly not higher than too many Arts subjects, and certainly lower than quite a few (I know that German, including the essay-based cultural studies classes, has a modest number of 90+ scores throughout every subject, even with the standardisation of results about the 60-something mark, and know multiple people who have achieved 90s in Geography and Psychology, which are handled by both faculties and include many arts-oriented subjects alongside more scientific ones). The mark distributions will also depend quite a lot on individual subjects and the way staff interpret, set and mark assessments. Not that it matters, in any case; this is all just a sidebar and I'm not trying to achieve anything with my tangential waffle

[Hancock]

Dean's List for First year is below 88 (I know this for a fact). It'd hazard a guess and say it's around 85. Don't be fooled by the ATARNotes results thread and think that it's higher because the distribution of marks here is very top heavy.

[Hancock]

Holy shiz niz, there is a Melbourne University subreddit on reddit.com. Da fuq.

[charmanderp]

Dean's List for First year is below 88 (I know this for a fact). It'd hazard a guess and say it's around 85. Don't be fooled by the ATARNotes results thread and think that it's higher because the distribution of marks here is very top heavy.

Yeah 85 is about what I expected. When I said 'what I've seen here' the 'here' was not in reference to AN, I don't really look at the uni results threads. It was more 'here' as in 'my assumption is based off these things'.

[simpak]

http://policy.unimelb.edu.au/MPF1063

You guys need to consult policy more often.  There is no deans list 'cut off', it's whatever constitutes the top 3%.  If 3% of people got above 95 the cutoff would be 95.  If 3% of people got above 80 the cutoff would be 80.  It would vary from year to year.

Not all of the subjects have to be done in the same year, just as the same level.  I took second year subjects in 2011 and in 2012 and got my Dean's List 2nd in 2012.

Anyway, not they don't lava - there are usually more prizes towards third year but some subjects won't have a prize.  Sometimes a whole area of study has a prize for eg prize in Immunology takes into account your score in the two Immunology subjects but also Micro/Immuno prac.

[charmanderp]

http://policy.unimelb.edu.au/MPF1063

You guys need to consult policy more often.  There is no deans list 'cut off', it's whatever constitutes the top 3%.  If 3% of people got above 95 the cutoff would be 95.  If 3% of people got above 80 the cutoff would be 80.  It would vary from year to year.

Not all of the subjects have to be done in the same year, just as the same level.  I took second year subjects in 2011 and in 2012 and got my Dean's List 2nd in 2012.

Anyway, not they don't lava - there are usually more prizes towards third year but some subjects won't have a prize.  Sometimes a whole area of study has a prize for eg prize in Immunology takes into account your score in the two Immunology subjects but also Micro/Immuno prac.

I think most of us were referring to a 'cutoff' that works similarly to VTAC's 'clearly-in' - the lowest average that someone in the top 3% would have.

And yeah for first year subjects I think it depends on the faculty. For commerce every subject seems to have a subject prize (damn the FBE and their endless wealth) but for Arts a lot of them are amalgamated (e.g. 'highest aggregate score in first year English subjects').

[simpak]

I don't think it's so easy to speculate about what that would be though between years especially in some courses.  The first time I was on the list only 2 other people made the cut with me.

The policy also answers other questions about number of subjects considered etc on the previous page...so I thought it might still be useful.  Soz.

[charmanderp]

I don't think it's so easy to speculate about what that would be though between years especially in some courses.  The first time I was on the list only 2 other people made the cut with me.

The policy also answers other questions about number of subjects considered etc on the previous page...so I thought it might still be useful.  Soz.

Haha no I definitely agree, the policy pages are always my first port of call for any uni related questions.

[vcestudent94]

What is the Dean's honours list for undergrad engineering? Is it seperate from the Dean's list you're all talking about?
http://www.eng.unimelb.edu.au/about/deans-honours/
How would they know which students are doing an engineering major?

[hobbitle]

What is the Dean's honours list for undergrad engineering? Is it seperate from the Dean's list you're all talking about?
http://www.eng.unimelb.edu.au/about/deans-honours/
How would they know which students are doing an engineering major?

Hey my boyfriend is on that page....!
One would assume for the Undergrad that it only applies to people completing their 3rd year hence they know what the majors are....