UoM General Chat

[Stick]

I'm assuming that they compliment each other? I was planning on doing phys and anat in the same semester and biochem by itself in another since I struggle with chem.
(Sorry sjayne for hijacking. Hope to see you in those lectures, tutes and pracs haha)

This is absolutely advisable.

I'm majoring in psych(and using my breadth for what will count as a minor if I do education postgrad) so I only have one extra science subject per semester and I want to do pharmacology in semester 2 so I can't do both of them. but thanks for the info everyone

If that's the case, physiology complements pharmacology a lot better than anatomy does. By the way, if you're still considering a neuroscience subject or two in third year, physiology will also be more helpful than anatomy. That being said, you might want to opt for something that's a bit different and choose anatomy to break it up a little. Either way, you're in good hands in BSci.

[Maths Forever]

Does anyone know why the second year physics subject 'Special Relativity and Electromagnetism' lets you select the subject onto your study plan, but not enrol?

Thanks 

[vox nihili]

I'm assuming that they compliment each other? I was planning on doing phys and anat in the same semester and biochem by itself in another since I struggle with chem.
(Sorry sjayne for hijacking. Hope to see you in those lectures, tutes and pracs haha)

Just gonna jump in and make the point that Biochemistry≠Chemistry. You can be great at Biochem and shit at Chem and vice versa. The level of chem required in Biochem is very minimal.

[emdiz]

anatomy vs physiology??? if you could only do one which would you do

It depends on whether you're asking about the second year subjects or the major. Second year phys is a great subject that is brilliantly taught and covers many areas of physiology. As someone who is essentially doing both majors, I personally think that physiology goes down hill in third year whereas anatomy just gets better as we use cadavers which is unbelievably cool (and an awesome opportunity as an undergrad student!) and the lecturers and teaching staff are awesome (IMO: Charles > Anatomy lecturers > 3rd year phys lecturers).

[Whynot123]

If you can only do either Anatomy or Physiology in 2nd year: Defs do physiology, hands down. You won't regret it, trust me.

[Kalopsic]

Just gonna jump in and make the point that Biochemistry≠Chemistry. You can be great at Biochem and shit at Chem and vice versa. The level of chem required in Biochem is very minimal.

Oh sweet! I got the idea from Carl when he showed the relevance of the concepts learnt in organic chem to biochem. Glad to hear that they aren't similar at all. In your opinion out of the anatomy, biochemistry and physiology, which would be the hardest and which would be the easiest? Or the general consensus

[Jawnle]

Have you tried doing it under breadths/selective? I'm not sure why it wouldn't pop up.

All of the first year breadths/selectives have already been taken up by the ones I did in semester 1 and currently doing in semester 2. The only entries that are free to fill now are the level 2 and level 3 ones, but I'm looking to do an extra level 1 subject for the summer. Maybe I'll be considered a second year by 2016 and am not allowed to do finance 1 (level 1 subject)? I've heard others say you can do any level electives regardless of your year but can't confirm :/

[mahler004]

Oh sweet! I got the idea from Carl when he showed the relevance of the concepts learnt in organic chem to biochem. Glad to hear that they aren't similar at all. In your opinion out of the anatomy, biochemistry and physiology, which would be the hardest and which would be the easiest? Or the general consensus

The biochemistry lecturers tend to downplay the chemistry, but there's definitely some overlap. You won't be writing organic mechanisms at all.

The organic lecturers tend to overstate the chemistry, because they want to prove that it's relevant for 90% of people in the lecture are planning on majoring in something biology-related.

[sjayne]

All of the first year breadths/selectives have already been taken up by the ones I did in semester 1 and currently doing in semester 2. The only entries that are free to fill now are the level 2 and level 3 ones, but I'm looking to do an extra level 1 subject for the summer. Maybe I'll be considered a second year by 2016 and am not allowed to do finance 1 (level 1 subject)? I've heard others say you can do any level electives regardless of your year but can't confirm :/

you can do three level 1's.I have 3 under my breadth section and it's fine

[Kalopsic]

The biochemistry lecturers tend to downplay the chemistry, but there's definitely some overlap. You won't be writing organic mechanisms at all.

The organic lecturers tend to overstate the chemistry, because they want to prove that it's relevant for 90% of people in the lecture are planning on majoring in something biology-related.

That makes sense since I haven't met anyone who plans on doing a chemistry subject next year

[Stick]

In your opinion out of the anatomy, biochemistry and physiology, which would be the hardest and which would be the easiest? Or the general consensus

It depends on personal strengths. If you're good at memorising, anatomy will be quite straightforward. Biochemistry also has quite a bit of memorising at second year level, but there's also a good deal of understanding involved too. Physiology probably requires the least amount of memorising, but is heavily grounded in understanding which means you have to put in a lot of effort to make sure you get it; it's quite easy at university to sit in a lecture passively and say "this makes sense" but physiology will really challenge that.

For me personally, it's difficult to rank them. I'd still say anatomy is the most straightforward but at the same time it's proven to be my weakness this semester (damn failing memory XD). I did a lot better in biochemistry and have been travelling rather well in physiology too. In terms of personal preference I'd say physiology > biochemistry > anatomy but I also feel I've had to put in more work for physiology and biochemistry compared to anatomy. So make of that what you will. ^_^

[KBean]

hey guys, for those who are doing thinking scientifically, have you received your marks for the latest module?

my friend got his back, but mine still says -/12. Just wondering if others had received theirs before I go and email the co-ordinator

[vox nihili]

Oh sweet! I got the idea from Carl when he showed the relevance of the concepts learnt in organic chem to biochem. Glad to hear that they aren't similar at all. In your opinion out of the anatomy, biochemistry and physiology, which would be the hardest and which would be the easiest? Or the general consensus

Chemistry would certainly give people a better appreciation of the topics, but that's not to say those who don't do it miss out. I'm absolutely shocking at Chemistry and have found Biochem great and very doable.

It really does depend on your talents. I think Anatomy is probably the easiest though. I mean, there's nothing at all complicated, or indeed remotely interesting, at pointing to bits and saying what they do. Of Biochemistry and Phys, it depends on the person. Personally, I found Phys much more difficult than your average person and probably found Biochem easier than your average person.

[REBORN]

It really does depend on your talents. I think Anatomy is probably the easiest though. I mean, there's nothing at all complicated, or indeed remotely interesting, at pointing to bits and saying what they do. Of Biochemistry and Phys, it depends on the person. Personally, I found Phys much more difficult than your average person and probably found Biochem easier than your average person.

Just to balance this clearly biased view of hatred towards anatomy...

If you know how to drive, but you don't know where Melbourne Uni is and thus how to drive there, what on earth is the point of your ability to drive? In other words, physiology is only completed by anatomy. In an ideal world you should do both; the major is Human Structure AND function for a reason. Agreed that Anatomy is easier than Physiology, but definitely don't agree that it's not 'remotely interesting' :p

[MelonBar]

hey guys, for those who are doing thinking scientifically, have you received your marks for the latest module?

my friend got his back, but mine still says -/12. Just wondering if others had received theirs before I go and email the co-ordinator

Ya yesterday