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Revision Thread
« on: November 16, 2011, 08:17:51 pm »
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Okay guys, Englang exam tomorrow. Bummer. Let's try and revise together, yeah?

Let's start with...spoken language?

OK, I'll start. You get the text, what's the big picture - the first thing you look at?
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Re: Revision Thread
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2011, 08:18:38 pm »
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The context and function (likely described in the summary prior to the actual text).

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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2011, 08:19:38 pm »
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Hmm. OK. So what about the context? Specific bits of context? Role relationships?
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Re: Revision Thread
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2011, 08:22:20 pm »
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So, where it's set? E.g. TV Show...

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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2011, 08:24:22 pm »
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Hmm. OK. So what about the context? Specific bits of context? Role relationships?

I would really just use the context to figure out "why" the conversation is happening. (i.e. the function).

The summary would only detail a vague idea of the relationship between speakers because that is largely described throughout the text, by their use of overlapping, turn-taking, etc etc.
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Re: Revision Thread
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2011, 08:24:54 pm »
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Hmm yeah, so maybe look at;

- Social Status (possible cues for topic management, turn taking management)
- Social Distance (formality vs informality)
- Social Solidarity (cooperation vs non-cooperation)

Yup, so you'd look for those features after deducing the likely relationship.
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Re: Revision Thread
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2011, 08:40:55 pm »
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Hmm.

Features of conversation and what do they say about the conversation itself. Go! (HELENV get over here!)
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Re: Revision Thread
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2011, 08:49:06 pm »
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;////;

ummmm...
Dialogue: use of adjacency pairs (turn taking) - the person asking is more dominant?

Also, holding and taking the floor...

Holding:
elongated sounds to hold, high rising pitch to say there's more to come...

Taking the floor:
interruptions...

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Re: Revision Thread
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2011, 08:51:19 pm »
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level of formality is what i always turn to in conversations
depending on what kind of conversation it is, you could see rapid turn taking between close/well acquainted friends, large monologues by a single speaker as a speech or w.e.
lets define it a little more; what features would tell you that a conversation is an interview (other than an intro saying "welcome to 60 minutes or smth)

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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2011, 08:51:58 pm »
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I just think adjacency pairs are more a sign of cooperation rather than an attempt at it...so like I don't think "ok i want to cooperate I will ask him a question" it's more i ask him a question and he answered it succinctly, and that's a sign of cooperation

What about contractions and reductions?

Overlaps...constructive and destructive?
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Re: Revision Thread
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2011, 08:53:55 pm »
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level of formality is what i always turn to in conversations
depending on what kind of conversation it is, you could see rapid turn taking between close/well acquainted friends, large monologues by a single speaker as a speech or w.e.
lets define it a little more; what features would tell you that a conversation is an interview (other than an intro saying "welcome to 60 minutes or smth)

Established turn taking between the interlocutors, with a series of question and answer adjacency pairs.

Topic and turn-taking effectively managed by interviewer, with interviewee only speaking when directed to do so (by finishing of syntactic clause) and having some licence to change topic, but interviewer has the upper hand.
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Re: Revision Thread
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2011, 08:57:34 pm »
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perfect lol, thusjan you are going to get 99+ easily. smartest guy out

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Re: Revision Thread
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2011, 08:59:40 pm »
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LOL cheers i hope so!

oh and on a side note, comment on the differences between this post and my previous one, particularly the formal/informal features :P
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Re: Revision Thread
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2011, 09:01:23 pm »
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contractions and reductions shows informality.

Overlaps
- constructive: backchannelling supports other speaker to keep going (umm, etc.) and finishing sentences together
- destructive: wants to take hold of the floor
- timing issue

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Re: Revision Thread
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2011, 09:02:25 pm »
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finishing sentences yup! aka collaborative completion :D

haha helen you're pretty pro :D
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