Login

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

September 11, 2025, 07:50:43 am

Author Topic: VCE Methods Question Thread!  (Read 5666770 times)  Share 

0 Members and 10 Guests are viewing this topic.

Hancock

  • SUPER ENGINEERING MAN
  • Victorian
  • Part of the furniture
  • *****
  • Posts: 1221
  • Respect: +270
  • School: Ringwood Secondary College
  • School Grad Year: 2011
Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1500 on: February 02, 2013, 04:06:13 pm »
0


For there to be exactly one solution, the discriminant of the quadratic must equal 0.









Stupid error.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2013, 04:10:28 pm by Hancock »
Thinking of doing Engineering? - Engineering FAQs

2012 - 2014: B.Sc. - Mechanical Systems - The University of Melbourne
2014 - 2014: Cross-Institutional Study - Aero/Mech Engineering - Monash University
2015 - 2016: M.Eng (Mechanical with Business) - The University of Melbourne
2015 - Sem1: Exchange Semester - ETH Zurich

e^1

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 222
  • Respect: +25
Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1501 on: February 02, 2013, 04:08:21 pm »
0
firstly, what are two applications of the process of "completing the square" for a quadratic expression?

Check me if I'm wrong.

1. To get it in turning point form . You may also use this to assist you in graphing.

2. Can be used to derive the quadratic formula from 

3. Solve quadratic equations.

You can actually find the answer here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Completing_the_square
« Last Edit: February 02, 2013, 05:05:32 pm by e^1 »

darklight

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 213
  • Respect: +2
  • School Grad Year: 2014
Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1502 on: February 02, 2013, 04:09:32 pm »
0
For pi < a < 3pi/2, with cos a = - sin b, where 0 < b < pi/2, find a in terms of b.
2015: Monash MBBS

Limista

  • Victorian
  • Forum Leader
  • ****
  • Posts: 944
  • Respect: +63
  • School Grad Year: 2013
Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1503 on: February 02, 2013, 04:15:38 pm »
0
For pi < a < 3pi/2, with cos a = - sin b, where 0 < b < pi/2, find a in terms of b.

cosa= -sinb
-sin (3pi/2 - a) = -sinb
3pi/2 - a = b
a = 3pi/2 - b
« Last Edit: February 02, 2013, 04:28:28 pm by Starfish »
Bachelor of Biomedicine @ The University of Melbourne (II) 2014-2016
Follow me on my blog

darklight

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 213
  • Respect: +2
  • School Grad Year: 2014
Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1504 on: February 02, 2013, 04:54:25 pm »
0
How do you work out that cos a  = - sin (3pi/2 - a) ?
2015: Monash MBBS

chisel

  • Victorian
  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • i'm a skeleton
  • Respect: 0
  • School: Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
  • School Grad Year: 2013
Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1505 on: February 02, 2013, 04:56:58 pm »
0


For there to be exactly one solution, the discriminant of the quadratic must equal 0.









Stupid error.
Thanks mate, nice working, clear and concise
2012:
Biology (45)
Further (44)

2013:
Specialist Maths (34)
Maths Methods (34)
Literature (38)
French (39)
Chemistry (32)

ATAR: 98.30

chisel

  • Victorian
  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • i'm a skeleton
  • Respect: 0
  • School: Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
  • School Grad Year: 2013
Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1506 on: February 02, 2013, 04:58:35 pm »
0
Check me if I'm wrong.

1. To get it in turning point form . You may also use this to assist you in graphing.

2. Can be used to derive the quadratic formula from 
I know the first one is right, and the second one sounds good too, thanks man!
2012:
Biology (45)
Further (44)

2013:
Specialist Maths (34)
Maths Methods (34)
Literature (38)
French (39)
Chemistry (32)

ATAR: 98.30

Limista

  • Victorian
  • Forum Leader
  • ****
  • Posts: 944
  • Respect: +63
  • School Grad Year: 2013
Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1507 on: February 02, 2013, 05:10:03 pm »
0
How do you work out that cos a  = - sin (3pi/2 - a) ?

sin(3pi/2 - a) is in the 3rd quadrant, where cosine and sine are negative
therefore      sin(3pi/2 - a) = -cos a
according to the rules of trignometry, you should know that the 3pi/2 after the sin changes the sin to cos. In this instance I have just applied these rules.

putting minus sign in front of sin(3pi/2 - a) = cos a (this is what we want)
Bachelor of Biomedicine @ The University of Melbourne (II) 2014-2016
Follow me on my blog

polar

  • Guest
Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1508 on: February 02, 2013, 05:27:22 pm »
0
For pi < a < 3pi/2, with cos a = - sin b, where 0 < b < pi/2, find a in terms of b.

one is in quadrant 3, the other is in quadrant 1 - so lets put them in the same quadrant first (think about , but 30 isn't equal to 150)
lets choose to put them both in quadrant 1 (add to get to quadrant 3 from quadrant 1, so subtract (awks, forgot to put a slash) to get from quadrant 3 to quadrant 1)

you remove the negative in front of because they're now both in quadrant 1 (both positive), whereas before you needed to make negative since was negative

now, write them both as a function of cosine
« Last Edit: February 02, 2013, 05:59:10 pm by polar »

Jaswinder

  • Victorian
  • Trendsetter
  • **
  • Posts: 152
  • Respect: 0
  • School Grad Year: 2014
Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1509 on: February 02, 2013, 10:34:53 pm »
0
how would i find the domain of without the aid of calculator?

b^3

  • Honorary Moderator
  • ATAR Notes Legend
  • *******
  • Posts: 3529
  • Overloading, just don't do it.
  • Respect: +631
  • School: Western Suburbs Area
  • School Grad Year: 2011
Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1510 on: February 02, 2013, 10:45:37 pm »
+3
There are a few things to note when finding maximal domains.
1. The bottom of a fraction cannot equal zero, since we cannot divide by zero. i.e. we end up with the function being undefined there.
2. Anything under a square root has to be equal to or greater than zero, as in methods we cannot square root a negative number.
3. Anything inside a log has to be greater than zero, as we cannot log a zero or a negative number.

So in our case we have 1 and 2, so we take the intersection of the two restrictions sets, that is

So we will need to find when . So to do this we can solve for when that is zero, and then do a little sketch and find when the graph is above the x axis.

We can do a little sketch of the graph of and as the coefficient on the is positive, we know that it will be a U shaped graph, with intercepts and . So the curve will be above the x axis for . I.e. . Hope that helps :)

EDIT: beaten, shitty net keeps dc'ing -.-
EDIT2: fixed the missing square roots.
2012-2016: Aerospace Engineering/Science (Double Major in Applied Mathematics - Monash Uni)
TI-NSPIRE GUIDES: METH, SPESH

Co-Authored AtarNotes' Maths Study Guides


I'm starting to get too old for this... May be on here or irc from time to time.

Will T

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 214
  • Respect: +5
  • School: Haileybury College
  • School Grad Year: 2013
Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1511 on: February 02, 2013, 10:45:55 pm »
0
Consider where g(x) := x^2-5 > 0.

Also, I believe the answer to Exercise 3J question 2f. of the Essentials is incorrect. Verification appreciated.
2012: Further Mathematics
2013: Specialist Mathematics | Japanese (SL) | Mathematical Methods CAS | Chemistry | English | UMEP - Mathematics

b^3

  • Honorary Moderator
  • ATAR Notes Legend
  • *******
  • Posts: 3529
  • Overloading, just don't do it.
  • Respect: +631
  • School: Western Suburbs Area
  • School Grad Year: 2011
Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1512 on: February 02, 2013, 10:50:01 pm »
0
Consider where g(x) := x^2-5 > 0.

Also, I believe the answer to Exercise 3J question 2f. of the Essentials is incorrect. Verification appreciated.
Why do you believe that it is incorrect? It looks fine to me.

EDIT: In that exercise you are using the mapping to find your inverse functions, i.e. it the inverse will be the original flipped in the line . If you graph them then you can see the arm of the curve for would know have come from anything under the mapping. Plus since Dom Ran we get rid of the other arm anyway.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2013, 10:57:30 pm by b^3 »
2012-2016: Aerospace Engineering/Science (Double Major in Applied Mathematics - Monash Uni)
TI-NSPIRE GUIDES: METH, SPESH

Co-Authored AtarNotes' Maths Study Guides


I'm starting to get too old for this... May be on here or irc from time to time.

pi

  • Honorary Moderator
  • Great Wonder of ATAR Notes
  • *******
  • Posts: 14348
  • Doctor.
  • Respect: +2376
Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1513 on: February 02, 2013, 11:01:21 pm »
+1
how would i find the domain of without the aid of calculator?

Quick summary:

Implied domains of certain scenarios

#1

Take and solve for
Domain = \{}

#2

Take and solve (use a "quick-sketch" if needed)
Domain = solution of inequation

#3

Take and solve (use a "quick-sketch if needed)
Domain = solution of inequation

#4

Take and solve
Domain = solution

Will T

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 214
  • Respect: +5
  • School: Haileybury College
  • School Grad Year: 2013
Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1514 on: February 02, 2013, 11:02:37 pm »
0
Why do you believe that it is incorrect? It looks fine to me.

EDIT: In that exercise you are using the mapping to find your inverse functions, i.e. it the inverse will be the original flipped in the line . If you graph them then you can see the arm of the curve for would know have come from anything under the mapping. Plus since Dom Ran we get rid of the other arm anyway.

Thanks, what on Earth was I on about....
2012: Further Mathematics
2013: Specialist Mathematics | Japanese (SL) | Mathematical Methods CAS | Chemistry | English | UMEP - Mathematics