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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16155 on: February 22, 2018, 03:08:57 pm »
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That is how you would work out the x intercepts but you have to make sure it's a valid answer

The square root of anything can never be negative, hence there is no solution (ie this expression cannot equal -1).

Another way to check would be to substitute the answer in and see if it works.


For your other question:
To find the point of zero gradient, solve for dy/dx =0 to get the x value then substitute that into the initial equation to find the y coordinate for that x value.
Axis intercepts you'd do the same as any other equation.

If you're still stuck on something let me know :)
Could you please expand on your explanation for my first question as it doesn't quite make sense.

Also, do you know if we could get graphs like y = -2(x+1)^3 in exam 1 and be asked to find the stationary point of inflection as it would be hard to find dy/dx without a calculator?

Thanks :)

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16156 on: February 22, 2018, 04:11:16 pm »
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Could you please expand on your explanation for my first question as it doesn't quite make sense.

Also, do you know if we could get graphs like y = -2(x+1)^3 in exam 1 and be asked to find the stationary point of inflection as it would be hard to find dy/dx without a calculator?

Thanks :)


For the second one, it is in point of inflection form already.  The basic cubic graph has point of inflection at origin. The transformation here in one unit left so that means the coordi ates of the point of inflection are (-1,0).  Im not sure if it could be asked in exam 1 but its definitely not too hard to find the stationary point.  U just need to expand the expression, find the derivative and then u can solve that for zero. Hope this makes sense now. If not, just leave a reply!
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16157 on: February 22, 2018, 04:26:46 pm »
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For the second one, it is in point of inflection form already.  The basic cubic graph has point of inflection at origin. The transformation here in one unit left so that means the coordi ates of the point of inflection are (-1,0).  Im not sure if it could be asked in exam 1 but its definitely not too hard to find the stationary point.  U just need to expand the expression, find the derivative and then u can solve that for zero. Hope this makes sense now. If not, just leave a reply!
Thanks :)

Just wondering, do you know if we're allowed to use a calculator for multiple choice and extended response questions in general?
Also, if - y = x+4
then is y = -(x+4)
so y = -x-4
Is this correct?
also, if -y = (1000/(x+50))-20
then y = -(1000/(x+50)-20)
so y = (-1000/x+50)+20
Is this correct?

Thanks  :)
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16158 on: February 22, 2018, 04:38:53 pm »
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Thanks :)

Just wondering, do you know if we're allowed to use a calculator for multiple choice and extended response questions in general?
Also, if - y = x+4
then is y = -(x+4)
so y = -x-4
Is this correct?
also, if -y = (1000/(x+50))-20
then y = -(1000/(x+50)-20)
so y = (-1000/x+50)+20
Is this correct?

Thanks  :)
The calculator is available in all multi-choice and extended response parts of the exam.

Your other questions are correct, since when you have negative values, you multiply both sides by -1, and the negative becomes positive, and vice versa.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16159 on: February 22, 2018, 04:40:54 pm »
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The calculator is available in all multi-choice and extended response parts of the exam.

Your other questions are correct, since when you have negative values, you multiply both sides by -1, and the negative becomes positive, and vice versa.
So that does mean that even when we do chapter review questions from a textbook we're allowed a calculator for multi-choice and extended response?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16160 on: February 22, 2018, 04:42:24 pm »
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So that does mean that even when we do chapter review questions from a textbook we're allowed a calculator for multi-choice and extended response?
I'd imagine that it depends on the textbook but I found that my Methods textbook had a picture of a calculator next to questions that you could use one for. Otherwise, ask your teacher, they'll be able to tell you which questions allow you to use a calculator and which ones don't :)

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16161 on: February 22, 2018, 07:01:21 pm »
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Hi guys! I am struggling to understand part b of this question and was hoping somebody could help me out.
Thank you.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16162 on: February 22, 2018, 08:07:25 pm »
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Yo ATARNotes!

I'm struggling to calculate the answers for what looks like a fairly basic question  :(

Find the values of a and b for which x^3 + ax^2 - 10x + b is divisible by x^2 + x - 12

I factorised the quadratic and then used the two solutions of the quadratic to set up two simultaneous equations that follow the remainder factor theorem.

But i got the answer wrong  ??? And I don't think i made an arithmetic mistake

Please help!!!
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16163 on: February 22, 2018, 08:51:54 pm »
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Could you please expand on your explanation for my first question as it doesn't quite make sense.

Also, do you know if we could get graphs like y = -2(x+1)^3 in exam 1 and be asked to find the stationary point of inflection as it would be hard to find dy/dx without a calculator?

Thanks :)
You could definitely be asked to find the point of inflection or dy/dx for that graph, but you can do it using the chain rule (which I don't think you've learned yet), no expansion necessary.

For your first question: sometimes when you solve things, you get answer(s) that don't work. Sometimes this is due to squaring, or how for logax, x>0, or because of an initial condition. Using a similar example to Izxnl:


For your question, we found



If you just wanted to verify your answer works, as you sometimes have to do in methods, you could simply substitute it in to see whether it works, like we did with the previous example.

Does this help a bit?

Thanks :)

Just wondering, do you know if we're allowed to use a calculator for multiple choice and extended response questions in general?
Also, if - y = x+4
then is y = -(x+4)
so y = -x-4
Is this correct?
also, if -y = (1000/(x+50))-20
then y = -(1000/(x+50)-20)
so y = (-1000/x+50)+20
Is this correct?

Thanks  :)
Yes it is correct but the final one should be written as y = -1000/(x+50)+20. This makes it clear that the 1000 is divided by (x+50) and not just divided by x.
y = (-1000/x+50)+20 would often be interpreted as (-1000/x)+50+20
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16164 on: February 22, 2018, 09:08:10 pm »
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Hi guys! I am struggling to understand part b of this question and was hoping somebody could help me out.
Thank you.

Firstly, the volume of the box is \(V=lwh\), and the area obtained in part a is \(A=4730\text{ cm}^3\).
If \(l=h\) then the area is given by

So we get that the volume is now given by \(V=l^2\left(\sqrt[3]{2365}-l\right)\).

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16165 on: February 22, 2018, 09:18:37 pm »
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Yo ATARNotes!

I'm struggling to calculate the answers for what looks like a fairly basic question  :(

Find the values of a and b for which x^3 + ax^2 - 10x + b is divisible by x^2 + x - 12

I factorised the quadratic and then used the two solutions of the quadratic to set up two simultaneous equations that follow the remainder factor theorem.

But i got the answer wrong  ??? And I don't think i made an arithmetic mistake

Please help!!!

This is what I get for it:

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16166 on: February 22, 2018, 09:20:57 pm »
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Thank you for your help jazzycab!

Looks like i did make an arithmetic mistake  :P
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16167 on: February 22, 2018, 09:22:33 pm »
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Firstly, the volume of the box is \(V=lwh\), and the area obtained in part a is \(A=4730\text{ cm}^3\).
If \(l=h\) then the area is given by

So we get that the volume is now given by \(V=l^2\left(\sqrt[3]{2365}-l\right)\).
Thank you! That definitely clears things up.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16168 on: February 23, 2018, 02:02:01 pm »
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If you get a question in an exam or sac that asks you to solve 2x=4 (won't be that easy just an example)
and this is your working
2x=4=x=2
Could you lose a mark?
And if this is your working
2x=4
x=4/2=2
Could you lose a mark?

h = 5+2cos((π/6)*t)
h metres is the height of the tide and t is the number of hours after midnight
What is the height of the high tide and when does it occur in the first 24 hours?

Also, a friend asked me what sac scores and exam scores are required for a 25 raw
Would I be correct in saying 60% on sacs, 20/40 on exam 1 and 30/80 on exam 2?
Thanks :)

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16169 on: February 23, 2018, 02:38:02 pm »
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If you get a question in an exam or sac that asks you to solve 2x=4 (won't be that easy just an example)
and this is your working
2x=4=x=2
Could you lose a mark?
Yes since you are basically saying 4=2  you will lose a mark
And if this is your working
2x=4
x=4/2=2
Could you lose a mark?
nope this is perfectly fine

h = 5+2cos((π/6)*t)
h metres is the height of the tide and t is the number of hours after midnight
What is the height of the high tide and when does it occur in the first 24 hours?
Work out the max value of the function and then plug that value in as h in order to find the values of t in which it occurs (within the domain)

Also, a friend asked me what sac scores and exam scores are required for a 25 raw
Would I be correct in saying 60% on sacs, 20/40 on exam 1 and 30/80 on exam 2?
sounds about right might even yield a little higher than 25 going off recent exams
Thanks :)