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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2235 on: July 13, 2013, 03:35:51 pm »
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This question has stumped me. I thought all I had to do was derive C, solve for 0 to find a stationary point and sub it back in but that does not seem to be the case. I think it might have something to do when it mentions 'level of output'. Any help?
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2236 on: July 13, 2013, 03:36:56 pm »
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I think you just need to step back, and don't blindlessly do the questions following formulas.

You really need to understand the context of the question. Think about it, if the question was relating to flipping a coin (its independent) because the 3rd toss won't affect the 3rd toss. (Theres always a 50/50 chance of getting a heads of tails even if you have previously gotten 5 heads in a row etc.

If it was a question it indicates there isn't a replacement. Then it is not independent.


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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2237 on: July 13, 2013, 03:55:29 pm »
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You've misinterpreted the question. C is total cost. The question asks you to not minimise C, but cost per unit. Therefore you need to minimise C/x.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2238 on: July 13, 2013, 04:31:00 pm »
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how do i find the intersection of sin(x) and sin(2x)?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2239 on: July 13, 2013, 04:43:41 pm »
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2240 on: July 13, 2013, 04:46:04 pm »
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i thought double angle formula was used in specialist, not in methods
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2241 on: July 13, 2013, 04:46:11 pm »
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sin(2x)=2sin(x)cos(x)

is this in study design?



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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2242 on: July 13, 2013, 04:55:15 pm »
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If you're using the Essentials book you might have some exercises with that in it.
Apparently you're only meant to recognise them..
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/mathematics/mmcasfaqs2011.pdf
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/mathematics/mathsstd.pdf
Page 130, third dot point
Quote from: Mathematical Methods (Cas) units 3 and 4 Study Design
• logarithm laws and exponent laws, recognition of equivalent forms using compound and double
angle formulas for sine, cosine and tangent
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http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/mathematics/mmcasfaqs2011.pdf - Thanks Lazyred.
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Are students expected to know and use the compound and double angle formulas
for sine, cosine and tangent?
As noted on page 8 of the June 2010 VCAA Bulletin VCE, VET and VCAL No. 80, students
are not required to memorise compound and double angle formulas for sine, cosine and
tangent for Examination 1. Mathematical Methods (CAS) students will not be required to
apply these to manipulation of expressions involving circular functions by hand. However,
they should be able to recognise them as functional relations involving f(x + y) and f(x – y)
and f(kx) for the circular functions sine, cosine and tangent, and be aware that CAS may
employ these relations in carrying out computations involving circular functions.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2243 on: July 13, 2013, 05:01:39 pm »
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Another quick question
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A company produces items at a cost price of $2.00 per item. Market research indicates that the likely number of items sold per month will be where p dollars is the selling price of each item. Find the value of p for which the company would expect to maximise its total monthly profit, and the corresponding number of items sold.
I'm completely lost again and any help would be much appreciated
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2244 on: July 13, 2013, 05:03:02 pm »
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If you're using the Essentials book you might have some exercises with that in it.
I actually previously didn't think it was in the methods study design... but apparently it is...
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/mathematics/mathsstd.pdf
Page 130, third dot point
EDIT: Note: From http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Pages/vce/studies/mathematics/cas/casindex.aspx
The study design was last updated January 2013
Note the use of "recognition of equivalent forms", I think they mean it in the sense of being able to understand output that the CAS might give, as stated here http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/mathematics/mmcasfaqs2011.pdf (page 2, third question)

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2245 on: July 13, 2013, 07:41:52 pm »
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OK, so we're assuming the company sells everything they make. The cost is 1600/p^2. The revenue is 800/p^2 * p
So profit = 800/p - 1600/p^2
Now just maximise this.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2246 on: July 14, 2013, 11:57:51 am »
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Quick question,

How would you go about finding the intersecting points of the equations

Y=2cos(x) and Y=x-(pi/2)

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2247 on: July 14, 2013, 12:07:39 pm »
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I just need a little clearing up. (this is 1/2)

so with the addition rule :

i just wanted to know when we don't use .

because some the of the problems i have been doing, i have been able to get the answer by simply , but with others i had to like write down the sample space and manually find , the sub it in.

thanks
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2248 on: July 14, 2013, 01:48:26 pm »
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I just need a little clearing up. (this is 1/2)

so with the addition rule :

i just wanted to know when we don't use .

because some the of the problems i have been doing, i have been able to get the answer by simply , but with others i had to like write down the sample space and manually find , the sub it in.

thanks
when they are independent events,u can use  .

when they are dependent, u have to manually find it
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2249 on: July 15, 2013, 08:01:19 pm »
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This seems like quite an easy question, but my mind is dead

The probability of Vanessa's car starting on a cold morning is 0.6, while on a normal morning the chance of it starting is 0.9. The probability of any morning being a cold is 0.3. If Vanessa's car starts tomorrow morning, find the probability that the morning is cold.

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