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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2250 on: July 15, 2013, 08:19:36 pm »
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This seems like quite an easy question, but my mind is dead

The probability of Vanessa's car starting on a cold morning is 0.6, while on a normal morning the chance of it starting is 0.9. The probability of any morning being a cold is 0.3. If Vanessa's car starts tomorrow morning, find the probability that the morning is cold.
probability of car starting= 0.3 x 0.6 + 0.7x0.9 = 0.81
probability ( cold n car starting ) =0.18
0.18 / 0.81 = 0.22
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2251 on: July 15, 2013, 08:56:12 pm »
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probability of car starting= 0.3 x 0.6 + 0.7x0.9 = 0.81
probability ( cold n car starting ) =0.18
0.18 / 0.81 = 0.22

Can you explain how you got the numbers that aren't in the question? Thanks
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2252 on: July 15, 2013, 09:13:57 pm »
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Can you explain how you got the numbers that aren't in the question? Thanks
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Let P(cold morning)= P(C) , normal morning = P(C'), car starting =P(S),not starting = P(S')
P(C)=0.3, P (C')=0.7 
the 0.6 is P(S / C)  P(S / C) = P(S n C )  /  P (C)
                               0.6 = P(S n C ) / 0.3
                                  P(S n C ) =0.18

P( S / C')=0.9     0.9= P(S n C') /  0.7
                              P(S n C' ) =0.63

P(S)=0.18 + 0.63 =0.81

the question asking for P ( C / S ) , so P ( C /  S)= P ( C n S ) /  P (S)
                                                                           =0.18/ 0.81
                                                                            =0.22


                               

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2253 on: July 15, 2013, 09:14:26 pm »
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Let be the event that the car starts.
Let be the event that the morning is cold.
We then know that

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Now using conditional probability we have

From the above you can get the result that RKTR has.

Which is also know as the Law of Total Probability.

Hope that helps :)

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« Reply #2254 on: July 15, 2013, 09:16:08 pm »
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2255 on: July 16, 2013, 05:47:33 pm »
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The graph of a cubic function f has a local maximum at (a, –3) and a local minimum at (b, –8).
The values of c,such that the equation f(x) + c = 0 has exactly one solution, are
A. 3 < c < 8
B. c > –3 or c < –8
C. –8 < c < –3
D. c < 3 or c > 8
E. c < –8

I keep getting b, but its not right :s

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2256 on: July 16, 2013, 06:03:33 pm »
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The graph of a cubic function f has a local maximum at (a, –3) and a local minimum at (b, –8).
The values of c,such that the equation f(x) + c = 0 has exactly one solution, are
A. 3 < c < 8
B. c > –3 or c < –8
C. –8 < c < –3
D. c < 3 or c > 8
E. c < –8

I keep getting b, but its not right :s

It looks like you missed a negative somewhere!
f(x)+c=0
f(x)=-c  <-- negative

Full explanation here:

Full explanation
Basically, its asking for values of c when f(x)=-c has only one solution. This can be restated as:
There is only the one intersection between f(x) and the line y=-c

we know that f(x) is a function, so it passes the vertical line test.
for y=f(x) and y=-c to have only one intersection, it must pass the horizontal line test (for that value of c)
Hence, we are looking for one-to-one relation sections of f(x)

looking at a quick sketch of f(x):


we can see this occurs above and below of the turning points
Hence, -c<-8 or -c>-3
Remember that the sign changes when we times through by -1,
  which is D

Note, we could also use vertical translations of the cubic function (graphical approach) but harder to explain and it sounds like you got it! just not the last negative bit :P

hope it helps! :)
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2257 on: July 16, 2013, 07:26:07 pm »
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could someonoe please explain to me how they got the answer to the last question on exam 2 extended response (2root2)?

kinda confused with the formula they write in the assessors report. Thanks

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2258 on: July 16, 2013, 07:45:28 pm »
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So we have two functions, and

If we equate the two:









Using the quadratic formula, the x-intercepts are:



This gives us the points where the two graphs intersect. The midpoint of the two intercepts is then . We also know that the x-coordinate of the midpoint of the two points of intersection is .

Equating the two we get:



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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2259 on: July 16, 2013, 07:50:05 pm »
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alright thanks mate.

how would you write the equation for the area of the graph?  the answers say integrate f(x) - g(x) between m and 0.

but wouldn't you need to consider that some of g(x) is under the x-axis and some isnt and write seperate integrals? :s

not sure. explanation would be appreciated :) thanks 

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« Reply #2260 on: July 16, 2013, 07:58:45 pm »
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g(x) is entirely above the x-axis.

While f(x) is not, its signed area would be negative - and subtracting a negative leads to a positive.

What you are doing is finding the area of g(x), and then subtracting the area of f(x) which is a negative, so you get the positive of that area. Essentially, you are adding the area of g(x) and the non-signed area of f(x), the sum of which is the area between g(x) and f(x).

I hope this makes sense :P

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2261 on: July 16, 2013, 08:01:17 pm »
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but wouldn't you need to consider that some of g(x) is under the x-axis and some isnt and write seperate integrals? :s

whoops i ment f(x) with that line

and im not quite sure what you mean :(

what im trying to say is, wouldn't you need two seperate integrals? one from 0 to the x-intercept between 0 and m. and the other integral from the x-intercept to m for the area of g(x)

how can they just  integrate f(x) - g(x) between m and 0
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« Reply #2262 on: July 16, 2013, 08:30:56 pm »
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If you want, add a constant c to both functions so that both f(x) and g(x) are wholly above the x axis. Now draw yourself a diagram and you'll see clearly that the area between the curves is found by integrating the difference between these new functions, which is f(x) + c - (g(x) + c) which is still f(x) - g(x). Therefore you can just stick to f(x) - g(x)
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« Reply #2263 on: July 17, 2013, 07:53:02 pm »
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« Reply #2264 on: July 17, 2013, 08:03:43 pm »
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The standard deviation is 0.2 according to the VCAA question, might be a typo?