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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16320 on: March 12, 2018, 01:53:11 pm »
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Thanks ;D

Also, do you know how to solve 1024 = 2^x without a cas?

Write the left hand side with a base of 2 (i.e. \(1024=2^{10}=2^x\)). Therefore \(x=10\)
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16321 on: March 12, 2018, 01:55:48 pm »
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Thanks ;D

Also, do you know how to solve 1024 = 2^x without a cas?
You can use logs. 1024=2^x is the same as x=log2(1024).
Personally in this case I would think about the game 2048... lol ;P
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« Reply #16322 on: March 12, 2018, 01:57:21 pm »
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Thanks everyone ;D
Am I correct in thinking that 2loge(2) is the same as loge(4)
Also, is there a way to work out 2loge(2) without a cas?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16323 on: March 12, 2018, 01:59:44 pm »
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Thanks everyone ;D
Am I correct in thinking that 2loge(2) is the same as loge(4)
Also, is there a way to work out 2loge(2) without a cas?
yes it is the same since the number outside the front can be brought inside as a power.

 2loge(2)  =  loge((2)2) = loge(4)




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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16324 on: March 12, 2018, 02:01:21 pm »
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Thanks everyone ;D
Am I correct in thinking that 2loge(2) is the same as loge(4)
Also, is there a way to work out 2loge(2) without a cas?
Yes, 2loge(2) is the same as loge(4) because of your log laws.
I don't think that there is a way to work it out without a CAS.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16325 on: March 12, 2018, 02:15:41 pm »
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But i'm doing a cas free question in which 2loge(2) is the y intercept
So would I just to estimate the value of 2loge(2)
And also, how would I know if the value of 2loge(2) is negative or positive?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16326 on: March 12, 2018, 02:32:06 pm »
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But i'm doing a cas free question in which 2loge(2) is the y intercept
So would I just to estimate the value of 2loge(2)
And also, how would I know if the value of 2loge(2) is negative or positive?

Thanks again
ln(1) =0
and ln(x) has a positive gradient (i.e. increasing as x increases)
so ln(2) > 0
hence
2ln(2) > 0 hence positive

Usually most would do this quick check subconsciously or in their head but these are the type of thinking you should do.

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16327 on: March 12, 2018, 03:05:32 pm »
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ln(1) =0
and ln(x) has a positive gradient (i.e. increasing as x increases)
so ln(2) > 0
hence
2ln(2) > 0 hence positive

Usually most would do this quick check subconsciously or in their head but these are the type of thinking you should do.

Additionally, because \(e\approx2.718\) we can get a more accurate estimate.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16328 on: March 12, 2018, 03:15:27 pm »
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Thanks Sine and Jazzycab
So would both your explanations work in any situation?

Also, does ln(1) mean log(1), and is this the same as log10(1)

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16329 on: March 12, 2018, 03:17:16 pm »
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In refers to a natural log which means the base is e (2.71828.......) not base 10

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16330 on: March 12, 2018, 03:27:15 pm »
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In refers to a natural log which means the base is e (2.71828.......) not base 10
Would it be written as loge(1)?

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« Reply #16331 on: March 12, 2018, 03:45:18 pm »
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Indeed
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16332 on: March 12, 2018, 04:06:15 pm »
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Indeed
Thanks
So if it wasn't about loge(1) would it usually be written as log10(1)?
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16333 on: March 12, 2018, 04:21:40 pm »
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Hey guys,

I know this is a stupid question but I keep forgetting the difference between dilations from the x and y axis.
Here's a question that I would appreciate a walkthrough of:

- Find the rule for y = x^3 under the following transformations:
  - a reflection in the y-axis
  - a dilation of factor 3 from the y-axis
  - a translation of 3 units in the positive direction of the x-axis, and 1 unit in + direction of the y-axis

I can visualise it in my head correctly, but usually end up writing the incorrect answer.
So (x,y) --> (-x, y), (-3x, y), (-3x + 3, y +1)
y = -3(x-3)^3 + 1 [I believe this would've been where I messed up]
y = -3(x-3)^3 - 1

Thanks!
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #16334 on: March 12, 2018, 07:59:42 pm »
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Hey guys,

I know this is a stupid question but I keep forgetting the difference between dilations from the x and y axis.
Here's a question that I would appreciate a walkthrough of:

- Find the rule for y = x^3 under the following transformations:
  - a reflection in the y-axis
  - a dilation of factor 3 from the y-axis
  - a translation of 3 units in the positive direction of the x-axis, and 1 unit in + direction of the y-axis

I can visualise it in my head correctly, but usually end up writing the incorrect answer.
So (x,y) --> (-x, y), (-3x, y), (-3x + 3, y +1)
y = -3(x-3)^3 + 1 [I believe this would've been where I messed up]
y = -3(x-3)^3 - 1

Thanks!
- Find the rule for y = x^3 under the following transformations:
  - a reflection in the y-axis
  - a dilation of factor 3 from the y-axis
  - a translation of 3 units in the positive direction of the x-axis, and 1 unit in + direction of the y-axis