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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #13005 on: January 12, 2016, 05:55:19 pm »
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How would u do 14,15,18?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #13006 on: January 12, 2016, 06:52:09 pm »
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How would u do 14,15,18?

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For question 15, I think you could use the quadratic formula to solve for the solutions. You should end up with an expression in terms of k. Under the radical, you should have k^2+k+1. And you can argue that since this is always positive for all values of k, the solution are all defined.

k=-1 is the only exception. When k=-1, the original equation becomes linear, but there is still a solution as -2x+1=0 can be solved to give x=1/2.

Hence, the equation has a solution for all values of k.

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« Reply #13007 on: January 13, 2016, 11:43:30 am »
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For question 15, I think you could use the quadratic formula to solve for the solutions. You should end up with an expression in terms of k. Under the radical, you should have k^2+k+1. And you can argue that since this is always positive for all values of k, the solution are all defined.

k=-1 is the only exception. When k=-1, the original equation becomes linear, but there is still a solution as -2x+1=0 can be solved to give x=1/2.

Hence, the equation has a solution for all values of k.

I hope this helps! :)

Ty, will look into it

btw, whats rational root theorem? The textbook has alpha and beta symbols that dont make any sense
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #13008 on: January 13, 2016, 12:19:52 pm »
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Ty, will look into it

btw, whats rational root theorem? The textbook has alpha and beta symbols that dont make any sense
Hmmm, send through a picture? We might be able to help you make sense of it. (I know a few theorems that might be called the "rational root theorem", so)

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« Reply #13009 on: January 13, 2016, 12:29:27 pm »
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Hmmm, send through a picture? We might be able to help you make sense of it. (I know a few theorems that might be called the "rational root theorem", so)

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« Reply #13010 on: January 13, 2016, 01:32:58 pm »
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Awkward moment when I have never seen this before. Awks.

Okay, I think what it's saying is to check the leading and constant terms of the expression (eg, if you have ax^3+bx^2+cx+d, check a and d), and make sure that the only factor they share is 1. (remember: factors are the list of numbers that the number is divisible by. For 10, this is 10, 5, 2 and 1. For 11, it's just 11 and 1. For 6, it's 6, 3, 2 and 1) If this holds true, proceed to the next step. If this does not hold true... You can probably try this anyway.

Next, guess that the linear factor might take the form a*x+d*, where a* is one of the factors of a, and d* is one of the factors of d. Then, just try all of those solutions in the factor theorem to see if any of those are a factor. I think the rational root theorem says that one of them must be? But I could be wrong, as I said, never seen this before, and the book does a pretty poor job of explaining it.

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« Reply #13011 on: January 13, 2016, 01:44:24 pm »
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Pics attached below Ty Euler again
It's mentioned in this thread. Specialist Question Thread!
Video example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTx-rXTQg1o
So yeah as Euler said and using his example, you need to find the integer factors of 'a' and the integer factors of 'd'. Once you have found these then you make all possible combinations of the factors you found, the combinations must be in the form: (factors of d)/(factors of a). Then sub these in to your function until one gives f(x)=0 and then you have a rational root
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« Reply #13012 on: January 13, 2016, 02:21:46 pm »
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It's mentioned in this thread. Specialist Question Thread!
Video example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTx-rXTQg1o
So yeah as Euler said and using his example, you need to find the integer factors of 'a' and the integer factors of 'd'. Once you have found these then you make all possible combinations of the factors you found, the combinations must be in the form: (factors of d)/(factors of a). Then sub these in to your function until one gives f(x)=0 and then you have a rational root

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« Reply #13013 on: January 16, 2016, 02:09:00 am »
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hi guys! for extended response questions, if you didn't get the EXACT answer but got a value very close to it would you still receive full marks?

for example, if a question asked me 'how many hours would it take to empty a litre of water' and the actual answer is 16 hours 40 mins but my answer is 17 hours? thanks in advance!  :)
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« Reply #13014 on: January 16, 2016, 02:34:45 am »
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hi guys! for extended response questions, if you didn't get the EXACT answer but got a value very close to it would you still receive full marks?

for example, if a question asked me 'how many hours would it take to empty a litre of water' and the actual answer is 16 hours 40 mins but my answer is 17 hours? thanks in advance!  :)

The question would usually say something like to the closest hour or closest 10 minutes. Sig figs as well are important

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« Reply #13015 on: January 16, 2016, 05:47:24 am »
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The question would usually say something like to the closest hour or closest 10 minutes. Sig figs as well are important

thanks for your help  :P
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« Reply #13016 on: January 16, 2016, 12:32:58 pm »
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hey, can someone help me with this ...its the first question...
for the first part i thought you just count the little squares inside the graph and divide it by the total number of little squares...either thats wrong or my ability to count little squares is terrible haha :)...and i don't know how to do the second the third part to it (over and underestimating)...so i was wandering if i could please get some help?
id appreciate it a lot  :D
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« Reply #13017 on: January 16, 2016, 12:40:16 pm »
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hey, can someone help me with this ...its the first question...
for the first part i thought you just count the little squares inside the graph and divide it by the total number of little squares...either thats wrong or my ability to count little squares is terrible haha :)...and i don't know how to do the second the third part to it (over and underestimating)...so i was wandering if i could please get some help?
id appreciate it a lot  :D

Use integration, counting squares is not very accurate and i wouldn't rely on that

19 squares? Can't count either
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« Reply #13018 on: January 16, 2016, 12:51:03 pm »
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Use integration, counting squares is not very accurate and i wouldn't rely on that

19 squares? Can't count either
how would you use integration?
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