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« Reply #4005 on: December 08, 2014, 08:48:13 pm »
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stupidest question

why do you not include the negative in the angle when doing inverse, is it cause you cant have negative angle or is there something else im missing?

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« Reply #4006 on: December 08, 2014, 08:48:29 pm »
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because the answer changes when i add the negative

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« Reply #4007 on: December 08, 2014, 08:50:56 pm »
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could you also have -pi?

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« Reply #4008 on: December 08, 2014, 09:21:43 pm »
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The negative sign was excluded because the textbook first found the reference angle before adjusting it (by adding the '2pi -' at the front) to ensure that the angle was in the correct quadrant.
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« Reply #4009 on: December 09, 2014, 02:45:52 pm »
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  • a complex number z = a+bi, zb is an element of R, is such that the modulus of z = 1 show that 1 / z = z (conjugate - tried my best with the line haha)
  • let z1 = 1/2 - srt3/2 i       and z2 = sqrt3/2 + 1/2 i  . if z3 = 1/z1 + 1/z2 . use part a (1)  above to evaluate the modulus of z3 and show that arg z3 = tan inverse ( 2- sqrt 3)

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« Reply #4010 on: December 09, 2014, 03:17:43 pm »
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Q1. 1/z = 1/(a+bi) = 1/(a+bi)*(a-bi)/(a-bi) = (a-bi)/(a^2 + b^2) = a-bi/(1)^2 = a - bi = conj(z). Note that I made the substitution sqrt(a^2 + b^2) = 1 as it is given that mod(z) = 1.

Q2. z_3 = 1/z_1 + 1/z_2. Since mod(z_1) = mod(z_2) = 1, we know from Q1 that 1/(z_1) = conj(z_1) and 1/(z_2) = conj(z_2). Hence, z_3 = conj(z_1) + conj(z_2) = 1/2 + sqrt(3)/2 i + sqrt(3)/2 - 1/2 i = (1/2 + sqrt(3)/2) + (sqrt(3)/2 - 1/2)i. Now, mod(z_3) = sqrt[(1/2 + sqrt(3)/2)^2 + (sqrt(3)/2 - 1/2)^2] = sqrt(2). Since z_3 is in the first quadrant, Arg(z_3) = arctan[(sqrt(3)/2 - 1/2)/(1/2 + sqrt(3)/2)] = arctan(2 - sqrt(3)), as required.
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« Reply #4011 on: December 09, 2014, 03:21:19 pm »
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Q1. 1/z = 1/(a+bi) = 1/(a+bi)*(a-bi)/(a-bi) = (a-bi)/(a^2 + b^2) = a-bi/(1)^2 = a - bi = conj(z). Note that I made the substitution sqrt(a^2 + b^2) = 1 as it is given that mod(z) = 1.

Q2. z_3 = 1/z_1 + 1/z_2. Since mod(z_1) = mod(z_2) = 1, we know from Q1 that 1/(z_1) = conj(z_1) and 1/(z_2) = conj(z_2). Hence, z_3 = conj(z_1) + conj(z_2) = 1/2 + sqrt(3)/2 i + sqrt(3)/2 - 1/2 i = (1/2 + sqrt(3)/2) + (sqrt(3)/2 - 1/2)i. Now, mod(z_3) = sqrt[(1/2 + sqrt(3)/2)^2 + (sqrt(3)/2 - 1/2)^2] = sqrt(2). Since z_3 is in the first quadrant, Arg(z_3) = arctan[(sqrt(3)/2 - 1/2)/(1/2 + sqrt(3)/2)] = arctan(2 - sqrt(3)), as required.

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how did you know that a^2 + b^2 was z? i thought that z was a + bi. am i missing something here?

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« Reply #4012 on: December 09, 2014, 03:38:25 pm »
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z = a + bi, but mod(z) = sqrt(a^2 + b^2) = 1.
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« Reply #4013 on: December 09, 2014, 03:46:36 pm »
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z = a + bi, but mod(z) = sqrt(a^2 + b^2) = 1.

ahh i see, but the bottom expression (that being a^2+b^2) was not square rooted?

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« Reply #4014 on: December 09, 2014, 03:55:05 pm »
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why have they kept it as 5pi/4, the question says Express the following products in polar form. , and tsfx notes say assume in the domain ( -pi, pi] if not stated.

still yields the same answer, but for the sake of working out?
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« Reply #4015 on: December 09, 2014, 04:10:02 pm »
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ahh i see, but the bottom expression (that being a^2+b^2) was not square rooted?
If mod(z) = 1 then the inside of the square root function would have to equal one as well making a^2+b^2=1

why have they kept it as 5pi/4, the question says Express the following products in polar form. , and tsfx notes say assume in the domain ( -pi, pi] if not stated.

still yields the same answer, but for the sake of working out?
For working it doesn't really matter what you do so long as your final answer is within the given domain. Of course simplifying it out as you work definitely helps since they can be tricky to add/subtract towards the end (kind of like fractions I suppose).

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« Reply #4016 on: December 09, 2014, 04:32:24 pm »
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sorry, i have a question that is about vectors, i'm still not quote sure what exactly are vector resolutes, and whats it purpose ( is it purely for finding the shortest distance- is the distance from a point to a line always the shortest if its perpendicular).
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« Reply #4017 on: December 09, 2014, 05:12:07 pm »
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sorry, i have a question that is about vectors, i'm still not quote sure what exactly are vector resolutes, and whats it purpose ( is it purely for finding the shortest distance- is the distance from a point to a line always the shortest if its perpendicular).
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Okay, so hopefully you're familiar with this picture:

If not, you are now! ;)

So, in the picture, we're projecting the red vector (u) onto the blue vector (v). However, before we go into this some more, let's explore the idea of vector components:

If you have a vector a=3i + j, you know that it moves 3 units in the positive x direction and one unit in the positive y direction. We can then break this vector up into two components - one for the x direction (3i) and one for the y direction (j).

In fact, we can do this for any vector, and the amount of components we can break it into depends on the dimension of the vector space. So, a is a 2-dimensional vector and can be broken into 2 components. For b=i-j+2k, we have three components. Of course, we could've said that a is a three dimensional vector also, and simply doesn't move up or down - in which case, its third component would be 0k.

Now, what if we wanted to change our axis? For example, instead of having the axis measured by vectors i and j, what if they were measured by and ? Well, all of a sudden, our previous method of finding our two components doesn't work. We note that finding these components is also referred to as "resolving" the vector into "rectangular" components.

So, now we consider the picture above. Let's say that our vector v is the same as our vector x above, and . Now, to find the projected vector, we use triangular methods. Looking above, we can see that the green vector has length , where theta is the angle between the vectors. Okay, so now we have the length - but a vector also needs a direction, so we need to give it a direction. Of course, the direction of our "axes" is just the unit vector in its direction, which is (you can calculate the magnitude yourself to confirm. ;) )

So, this means that the projected vector is . However, this means we HAVE to find the angle, which is tedious and annoying - but, we know that , so we multilpy and divide by the magnitude of v like so:




Now that you hopefully understand the geometric interpretation, we can discuss the applications. One application is of course finding the shortest distance, which is when the distance between the two vectors/point and one vector is perpendicular. Another is, as I alluded to, the rotation of axis, which has uses if you have an equation such as (which is actually an ellipse, and can be find by rotation of axis). Resolutes also has applications in physics, such as in mechanics which you will see when you get there. (note: your book/teacher may not make the link when you're resolving force vectors into rectangular components. However, they are very much the same thing)

Aside from the applications in mechanics, VCAA don't seem to have ever assessed applications of resolutes, and applications aren't directly mentioned in the study design.

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« Reply #4018 on: December 09, 2014, 05:48:30 pm »
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i know how to solve this question. My question is, how did we know we had to use de moivres theorem. Besides the  Arg (z^5) , this can easily be mis interpreted (in my case) to raise the z value to the fifth power (this isnt an option in the MC). Most questions of this type, usually have the power outside the actual expression e.g. (2cis(pi/2)) ^2

or if z =......, what is z^2

how would you know to actually use the theorem for the whole thing? e.g. 4^5 cis (5  x ... ) ?

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« Reply #4019 on: December 09, 2014, 06:26:57 pm »
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i know how to solve this question. My question is, how did we know we had to use de moivres theorem. Besides the  Arg (z^5) , this can easily be mis interpreted (in my case) to raise the z value to the fifth power (this isnt an option in the MC). Most questions of this type, usually have the power outside the actual expression e.g. (2cis(pi/2)) ^2

or if z =......, what is z^2

how would you know to actually use the theorem for the whole thing? e.g. 4^5 cis (5  x ... ) ?

thanks

You use De Moivre's theorem WHENEVER they want you to evaluate a complex number to the power n. This is because trying to figure it out otherwise is annoying - consider . Now, to evaluate z^4, we have two methods:

1) Binomial expansion.


2)De Moivre's Theorem:


See how much quicker/easier the second method was? This is why De Moivre's theorem.