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Re: Why Medicine?
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2011, 09:53:21 pm »
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Honestly, say whatever you want but I'm 99% sure you want to do medicine because it'll make your parents happy. In Asia, many families are extremely poor and medicine represents an avenue for a good student to break the cycle and have a decent life. That's why so many parents pressure their kids to do medicine and why 90% of high-achieving Asian students want to do medicine.
lol what are you on about
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I doubt 90% of the asian population in australia is or were extremely poor and all strive to become doctors so they can break so called poverty cycle and help their relatives back in their homeland
there are far better careers than medicine in terms of earning money, and they do not require extremes such as 'putting your hands up a man's anus'
have you ever considered people that want to be doctors have altruistic values? such people exist, and it's more than 10% of the population of high achieving Asian Australians surely..
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Re: Why Medicine?
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2011, 09:58:44 pm »
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Honestly, say whatever you want but I'm 99% sure you want to do medicine because it'll make your parents happy.
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Re: Why Medicine?
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2011, 10:02:48 pm »
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Re: Why Medicine?
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2011, 10:03:41 pm »
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i aint explaining shit about correlation, i was just wdfing about how stupid that statement was

ur 99% sure is my 1% sure
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Re: Why Medicine?
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2011, 10:05:54 pm »
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When I looked at the facebook group for MD cohort, only about 30-40% of it was Asian.

A 2 person sample space is not a very good sample space.
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Re: Why Medicine?
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2011, 10:06:33 pm »
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????? huh when did this turn into 2 indian students picking med, stop moving off topic.

read the statement you just posted, then read it again and realise how stupid it was.

EDIT: let me break it down to you why it's such a retarded statement kk?

ok sure some parents will be happy if their child does med, but you said "99% sure you want to do medicine because it'll make your parents happy", so you're a mind reader? can read exactly into other people's mind and find their reason for doing med?

just saying, i'm asian, and if I did med, my parents would be far from happy ;)

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Re: Why Medicine?
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2011, 10:08:20 pm »
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When I looked at the facebook group for MD cohort, only about 30-40% of it was Asian.

A 2 person sample space is not a very good sample space.

"Honestly, say whatever you want but I'm 99% sure you want to do medicine because it'll make your parents happy. "

What's wdf about that?

@dc302, at my school, 11/23 students in my Specialist maths class were Indian. All 11 sat the UMAT and wanted to study medicine. Of the other 12, 3 sat UMAT and were considering medicine. Explain that to me if it's not something to do with parents.
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Re: Why Medicine?
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2011, 10:08:39 pm »
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i aint explaining shit about correlation, i was just wdfing about how stupid that statement was

So we have two random Indian students who BOTH want to do medicine and you think parents aren't a factor?

Look at the acinod thread, nuff said.
2 random Indian students? Where are you getting this from, you can't just take two random students and make up the results. This isn't real data. Not every Indian student wants to do med.
When I looked at the facebook group for MD cohort, only about 30-40% of it was Asian.

A 2 person sample space is not a very good sample space.
That is more like real data (all we could go through all the verification issue e.t.c)

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Re: Why Medicine?
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2011, 10:10:45 pm »
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Okay, first off I don't have Asian/Indian parents so that can't be it. Secondly, I'm a girl so I definitely don't want to do medicine to pick up chicks. So... clearly your stereotypes are far from accurate.

Honestly, there are heaps of things about med that appeal to me. Money is least relevant, I'd still want to do it even if it was one of the lower paying jobs. I geniunely want to have a job that directly influences people's lives, I like the leadership aspect of it, and the fact that for the most part it won't be a monotonous, boring job. I like the research opportunities, and I have a geniune interest in diseases and anatomy and all that.
I know that there will be aspects of it which I'll probably hate (ugh, paperwork), but for the most part I think it will be a rewarding and interesting career.

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Re: Why Medicine?
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2011, 10:11:23 pm »
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i aint explaining shit about correlation, i was just wdfing about how stupid that statement was

So we have two random Indian students who BOTH want to do medicine and you think parents aren't a factor?

Look at the acinod thread, nuff said.
2 random Indian students? Where are you getting this from, you can't just take two random students and make up the results. This isn't real data. Not every Indian student wants to do med.
When I looked at the facebook group for MD cohort, only about 30-40% of it was Asian.

A 2 person sample space is not a very good sample space.
That is more like real data (all we could go through all the verification issue e.t.c)

Samad and Istafa (Apologies if spelt incorrectly) are the two, I was talking to him prior.


I never said Asian students were good at getting into medicine, just said a lot of them are pressured to do it.
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Re: Why Medicine?
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2011, 10:11:57 pm »
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Samad and Istafa (Apologies if spelt incorrectly) are the two, I was talking to him prior.

They're not Indian (if that gives/takes to/from what you're putting forward).
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Re: Why Medicine?
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Re: Why Medicine?
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2011, 10:14:40 pm »
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i aint explaining shit about correlation, i was just wdfing about how stupid that statement was

So we have two random Indian students who BOTH want to do medicine and you think parents aren't a factor?

Look at the acinod thread, nuff said.
lol they are twins, what do you expect? also iirc they are pakistani
Fairly sure the med cohort is much more diverse
either you're trolling or are very ... close-minded.. na can't think of the right word. Blunt perhaps
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Re: Why Medicine?
« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2011, 10:16:22 pm »
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I think why so many people are drawn to it compared to other professions is:

- Medicine can be exhilirating. It is rapidly moving, your learning is lifelong, and the job involves a high level of practicality and hands-on activity. It is rarely monotonous or boring.

- Medicine is usually intriguing: It is really diverse, and the career is heavily associated with problem soliving, application of knowledge to real life situations etc.

- Medicine is often viewed as fulfilling because you interact with and assist a diverse range of people at a face to face and direct level.

Just thought that some of these reasons might help  :)

Honestly, say whatever you want but I'm 99% sure you want to do medicine because it'll make your parents happy. In Asia, many families are extremely poor and medicine represents an avenue for a good student to break the cycle and have a decent life. That's why so many parents pressure their kids to do medicine and why 90% of high-achieving Asian students want to do medicine.

Firstly, engineering is also lifelong learning, even moreso than medicine because technology becomes obsolete every few years.

On your second point, the entire profession of engineering is based on applying knowledge.

On your third point, I agree with you.

People think doctors are respected and their job is full of cheer and goodwill but in reality, it's nothing like that. My GP told me that unless you have a personal desire to study medicine, completely uninfluenced by your parents/teachers, it will be the worst decision you make in your life. You miss out almost entirely on family life as you are continuously working, the pay is crap for the hours you work and patients are constantly criticising you and the threat of litigation plays on your mind non-stop. But if you genuinely have a desire to help someone, you'd see this as the only life for you. If you think you're going to enjoy this profession and bask in the sunlight of your prestige, you are wrong.

So why do so many people want to do it? As I said, prestige and their inability to tell their parents that they're making their own decisions in life.

Say whatever you like, but at the end of the day, doctors have to put their hands up a man's anus when need-be, is it really a desire of applying problems and lifelong learning that prompts them to choose this?


That's why Universities interview medicine students. :P They might be the smartest students with great ATARs and UMAT/GAMSAT scores but it's clear if they are truly passionate about medicine in the interviews. You need to have the right personality to do medicine and a lot of these kids who are forced just don't and are unlikely to make it into medicine anyway.
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