ANY CHANCE OF MEDICINE IN AUSTRALIA?

[Ngage0]

Hi guys got an atar of 94.35, umat score wasnt great less than 50 in all sections just wondering any chance at all to get into medicine in australia. Also i am planning to go overseas to india and study MBBS if there is no chance here, is this a good decision? Currently studying BSc at UoM planning on drop it after 1st semester to study mbbs in india. Going to study MBBS at Manipal University 6th ranked unveristy in india.

thanks in advance.

[paulsterio]

You should contact the AMC and tell them that you want to do it in India, they'll tell you whether that degree can be used in Australia. You'll also have to pass an AMC test to be able to practice medicine in Australia.

[mark_alec]

You will find it very hard to practice here afterwards. You will need to pass (probably at a high cost) a series of exams to be able to practice. Then as your degree is not from here, you will not be given preference in where to intern - don't know what difference it makes that you are Australian - but you might be required to work in a "shortage" area for 10 or so years.

[Ngage0]

ive done reasearch and you have to clear the amc 500 question multiple choice exam followed by 2 clinical exams. However after clearing the amc you are able to begin work as a doctor. What about my chances of studying in australia with my current atar?

[paulsterio]

If you take the graduate pathway, which is to do a Bachelor of Science at UoM like you are currently doing, then 3 years down the track, it's all based on GAMSAT and Uni, so ATAR doesn't matter anymore and you have the same chance as everyone else (who might have had a higher ATAR)

[Ngage0]

It's going to be very difficult to maintain a high GPA and gamsat is very difficult. What If I don't make it after 3 years into med. I will be jobless. If I study overseas I can start earning while I'm clearing exams. Any other ideas?

[Planck's constant]

It's going to be very difficult to maintain a high GPA and gamsat is very difficult.

In that case, I'll make it easy for you.
You have NO chance of Medicine in Australia

[paulsterio]

If you won't get a high GPA and you believe that the GAMSAT is difficult, argonaut is right, in a nicer way, you really won't get into any graduate medicine courses.

Also, think about it, if you're going to struggle in a science course (you find it difficult to get a high GPA), you'll probably struggle to go through the medicine overseas as well. Not only that, you'll also struggle to pass the AMC tests. All in all, you really should be thinking about whether you're prepared to work really hard for medicine (no matter which path you take)

[burbs]

Studying in India then trying to get an Aus license will be like 10 years of hard work. Don't think that the exams when you come back will be easy - one of my family members also tutors Indians who are sitting these exams for Aus. recognition and says they are generally lacking in having a proper understanding because in India its so much rote learning. You ask them to tell you the definition of something and you will get a perfect answer - ask them to diagnose somebody and you may be in strife. It's a tough road.

Studying here to get into med is 3 years of hard work. All that about "i wont have a job" if you don't get in... mate you're still going to have a degree that you can use.

Personally, I would go to UoM.

[Ngage0]

10 years of hard work, how so? after 5 years of MBBS overseas and passing the AMC cant i begin work?

[paulsterio]

10 years of hard work, how so? after 5 years of MBBS overseas and passing the AMC cant i begin work?

you're not gonna pass the AMC first go, then there's internship, residency as well. i'd take a stab and say it's even more than 10 years.

what you could do, is just go on with the Bachelor of Science. If you don't get into postgrad medicine, there's a lot of other health careers you could go into, Optometry, Dentistry, Physio, Pharmacy...etc. If not, you could always continue on to do a masters in Science or in Engineering or basically anything else and work in that too.

[Planck's constant]

10 years of hard work, how so? after 5 years of MBBS overseas and passing the AMC cant i begin work?

You dont seem to understand.
The people you want to compete against have already done 2-3 years of HARD work.
They worked hard so that they could get the 99+ ATAR they needed to get into Undergrad Medicine or UoM Biomedicine.
They will continue to work HARD for the next 5-6 years at University.

The moral of the story is that if you want to become a doctor you must do 10 years of HARD work.

Therefore, the sooner you stop complaining on internet forums and get started on doing some HARD work, the better.

[86]

I don't see how BSc @ Melbourne is inadequate for you anyway - heaps of major pathways if your interests change. And if you don't want the course, there are plenty who missed out who do.

[Planck's constant]

I don't see how BSc @ Melbourne is inadequate for you anyway - heaps of major pathways if your interests change. And if you don't want the course, there are plenty who missed out who do.

You are right on the money there.
Even though the Biomed undergrads have earned their stripes, they cannot afford to relax.
There are quite a few guns (including a few Chancellor's Scholars) waiting in the wings at BSc who are certain to go after them.
The MD spots will be hard fought.
This is good healthy competition and its good for the University.
Those of you who get MD at UoM in three years will have my TOTAL RESPECT

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[pi]

How much do you know about the Indian course Ngage0?

If you choose to go there, hopefully you already know that you start off miles behind them in chemistry and biology. Catching up + learning new stuff in MUCH stiffer competition (they only take 250 students) is not going to be easy.

And, just looking at their admission criteria for international/NRI students:

...The admissions are based on merit and marks/grades obtained in the qualifying examination(equivalent to the +2 examinations of India)...

Also, only 15% of students per course can be international/NRI. So you'd be competing with other internationals  to gain one of 37-38 places there. Have you checked with them to see that you qualify (is your ATAR high enough for MBBS there?)?


Personally, I'd go to UoM Sci and persist for an MD place. It's the easier route with less hassles and many less years wasted.