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appianway

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Re: Anyone do BHP Melbourne University Maths competition yesterday?
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2010, 09:05:20 pm »
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LOL I asked a friend if he had a chance for 2011, and she said possibly (which is pretty good). It'd be cool if a Victorian got in next year ;D

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Re: Anyone do BHP Melbourne University Maths competition yesterday?
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2010, 09:34:53 pm »
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Aaron Chong
Sampson Wong
Stacey Law
Alfred Liang
Tim Large
Chris Ryba
Colin Lu
David Vasak
Malcolm Granville
Kiho Park
Thushan Hettige

Indeed, we have a very strong group this year.
I think Sampson, Aaron and Stacey are basically definitely gonna stay.

What about Alfred?  He technically did better than Stacey last year in the IMO.  =)
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Re: Anyone do BHP Melbourne University Maths competition yesterday?
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2010, 09:54:22 pm »
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AzureBlue, are you a mathscamp person?

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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2010, 09:59:04 pm »
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Ah, ok. I find the maths camp selection process a bit strange - it's not very transparent and students who only participate in one maths competition don't seem to have much of a chance. At least with science you know that if you gun the NQE, you're in - if you don't, you're not.

Do you know any of the ex maths campers? I have some friends who deferred to go to science/didn't get invited back.

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Re: Anyone do BHP Melbourne University Maths competition yesterday?
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2010, 10:16:06 pm »
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Hmm, I always thought that students were spotted with those competitions held above all others, but that other things came into play. I'm not really in the maths competition scence at all though - I take barely any, and I never take it seriously anyway.

I haven't gone to I*O, but I'm sitting the FSE (final selection exam) on Saturday - I've been involved in the national program, but don't know whether I'll be on the team. It's impossible to predict with absolute certainty - I just hope that the exam's fun.

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Re: Anyone do BHP Melbourne University Maths competition yesterday?
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2010, 10:46:54 pm »
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What about Alfred?  He technically did better than Stacey last year in the IMO.  =)
Stacey - 22
Alfred - 17
Or am I missing something here?

http://www.amt.canberra.edu.au/imo2009.html

Ahem, my bad.  Mixed him up with Aaron Chong. 

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Re: Anyone do BHP Melbourne University Maths competition yesterday?
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2010, 08:42:30 am »
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You really are...

It'll be interesting if some past olympians don't make it back onto the team. It might happen with chemistry this year, seeing as Kelvin apparently failed his lab exam...

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Re: Anyone do BHP Melbourne University Maths competition yesterday?
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2010, 09:29:42 am »
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I'm in the physics olympiad program, not maths :P Physics and Biology have the final exams (in addition to the summer school) tomorrow; Chemistry has them next week.

And yes, I'm Victorian... there are only four of us doing physics :(

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Re: Anyone do BHP Melbourne University Maths competition yesterday?
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2010, 09:44:35 am »
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I'd definitely recommend taking the NQE a year earlier. My school didn't allow it, which is a bit of a shame - I would've liked to have gone to both physics and chemistry. The only NQE I didn't take was biology, so I'm not an expert in regards to it, but I do have some friends who got in without taking any biology whatsoever, so the fact that you're doing 1/2 shouldn't matter too much. There are always some people who go a year early - I had a friend from physics (who also went to maths camp from year 8 onwards) who went to biology in year 11 (after  passing the NQE in year 10), and in chemistry this year there were 2 students from the class of 2011 (I think...).

In regards to how good you have to be to get into the summer school, it depends. They invite 24 students each year to each science, but they always drop beyond the 24 rank and usually into the low-mid 30s because quite a few people qualify for more than one science (I think we had 5 in physics), can't go or don't want to risk being ruled out for maths (you can't do both). I honestly don't know what sort of marks you'd need on biology NQEs to get in - I'd presume roughly 80%, but it'd fluctuate from year to year - the style of paper is now more conceptual and less factual, so the past papers aren't too indicative. You can do quite poorly in chemistry and still get in - low 40%s to high 30%s is often enough (but often fluctuates) - I just qualified for chemistry (I did so much better in physics that I didn't find out about my chemistry qualification until the camp) with mid 40%s, so anything above that should be fine. Then again, last year was a really hard paper... I'm not too sure about physics, because there'd be a huge range of scores - I'd say about 50-60% would be the threshold, perhaps lower if it's a harder paper (and much, much higher if it's easier).   

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Re: Anyone do BHP Melbourne University Maths competition yesterday?
« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2010, 10:04:01 am »
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Woohoo!
I signed up for Chem and Phys NQE (yes appianway, I'm doing both :D)
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Re: Anyone do BHP Melbourne University Maths competition yesterday?
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2010, 10:10:37 am »
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Ooh, yay :) You'll probably do better than me on the chemistry one :P

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Re: Anyone do BHP Melbourne University Maths competition yesterday?
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2010, 12:56:05 pm »
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Ooh, yay :) You'll probably do better than me on the chemistry one :P

Doubt that very much :)

Just out of interest, what's the selection criteria for IMO?
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Re: Anyone do BHP Melbourne University Maths competition yesterday?
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2010, 01:29:05 pm »
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This is how I think IMO's chosen:

-Get invited to sit AMO.
-Get invited to sit APMO based on a range of mathematical competition resuts and possibly participation at the school of excellence
-Get invited to the selection camp based on AMO and APMO.
-Get chosen at the selection camp, as a result of your marks at the selection camp and possibly other factors (such as social ability and so on). Apparently the teams are usually decided well in advance though - the maths community is quite insular as students often participate in the school of excellence from a young age, receive all of the coaching and then do better in the other competitions.

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Re: Anyone do BHP Melbourne University Maths competition yesterday?
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2010, 02:19:58 pm »
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Looks hard :P
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Re: Anyone do BHP Melbourne University Maths competition yesterday?
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2010, 02:28:00 pm »
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To get in? I'm not sure - I have a few friends who've done it. Surprisingly, one of the guys who I know who's gotten a number of awards in AMOC, UNSW maths prizes (the NSW equivalent of BHP MUMC) and quite a few medals in the Westpac's never been invited. "Lower" achievers have been. Hmm...