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Re: 2012 Unit 4 Exam Discussion- How was it?
« Reply #195 on: November 12, 2012, 06:22:48 pm »
cut off will be 82 gg
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Re: 2012 Unit 4 Exam Discussion- How was it?
« Reply #196 on: November 12, 2012, 06:26:28 pm »
Yeah, I think those niggling tricks would cost people marks.. around 77-78 imo :)

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Re: 2012 Unit 4 Exam Discussion- How was it?
« Reply #197 on: November 12, 2012, 06:29:17 pm »
Yeah, I'm changing my cut-off prediction to 79/90 :)

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Re: 2012 Unit 4 Exam Discussion- How was it?
« Reply #198 on: November 12, 2012, 06:53:46 pm »
Did everyone finish their exams? I myself blazed through all the questions but missed out on the two six marked questions. :'(

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Re: 2012 Unit 4 Exam Discussion- How was it?
« Reply #199 on: November 12, 2012, 07:20:27 pm »
Hey Everyone,

I see one of my discussion answers was posted here :P haha, anyway I found the exam easy.
I guess the only challenges were the ambiguous wording/terrible formatting of questions.

These are a couple of examples where I am unsure.

The 1st Question gave me the fits because you're given a Sales Return from which Lyall Import's returns some items to Modern Seating. The "Cost per item" was $500. And the sales are made at a 100% mark-up. So at first thought, I was like okay, Cost of Sales will go down $500 with the Sales Returns being $1000 + $100 GST.
However, I realised that Modern Seating probably wouldn't have given the cost price of the seat to Lyall's Imports. This ultimately led me to interpret the question in this manner:
                General Journal
Date             Details                               Debit             Credit         Debit        Credit
18/11       Sales Returns                         500       
                GST Clearing                             50
                    Debtors Control                                           550
                    Debtor - Lyall's Imports                                                                 550
                Cost Of Sales                         250
                    Stock Control                                               250

The original sale was $1500 +150 GST, and Lyall Imports returned 1 chair which cost them $500 + $50 GST to Modern Seating. As the mark-up is 100%, then Cost of Sales is $250. This is my interpretation, and I was wondering if anyone else thought about it like me. This irked me though because the wording of the document and question is just terrible.

Leading onto my next frustration with this exam:
The third question. Now, that Income Statement was half-empty and it annoyed me because it just seemed so bare; same with the reconstruction of the Debtors Control - where were the usual discounts, stock write-downs, stock losses, sales returns etc.!

My main frustration with this question was that the formatting was just terrible, and I had a real issue with determining Office Expenses for the Income Statement. It says in the table that the firm estimates to pay 30800 including GST of Office Expenses in the Budgeted Income Statement. The question then proceeds to say that Prepaid Office Expenses increased from 800 to 2000. Now, how do I interpret this? It says in the BUDGETED INCOME STATEMENT that they've paid 28000 in Office Expenses for the period. So I wrote in 28000. But then I was like but how are prepaid expenses going to increase if all of the office expenses were incurred in the reporting period? So then I became confused.

I ended up writing Office Expenses as $26800 (28000 - 1200), because even though it says they paid $28000 in the budgeted Income Statement, I just don't see how else prepaid Office expenses would have increased. But it was just ridiculous how awful the format of this question was.

Okay, I think I've ranted long enough, I don't know if anyone else had problems like mine, but yeah. It wasn't a hard exam, just a poorly worded one in my opinion. I expect the A+ cutoff to be a bit higher than the midyear.

I'm out.
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Re: 2012 Unit 4 Exam Discussion- How was it?
« Reply #200 on: November 12, 2012, 07:21:43 pm »
Hi, can someone estimate my study score please?

Mid-year: mid or high A (let's assume 72/90)
SACs: rank 1 in a strong cohort (question: would my score here be based on the average of the two highest scores from both exams, or the average of the single highest scorer across both exams?). Both cases would give an average around 84+/90.
End-of-year exam: high A+ (85+/90)

SS Estimator says 42-47 for me.

What do you think?

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Re: 2012 Unit 4 Exam Discussion- How was it?
« Reply #201 on: November 12, 2012, 07:25:24 pm »
Toto:

Your interpretation on the first question is right I believe. I didn't have a problem with it, although I do see where you're coming from!

Yes some of things were fairly bare, which cast some doubt but you've got to back your judgement.

The whole prepaid office expense thing made sense IMO, it was to separate the top students I think... They PAID 28000, therefore 28000 in the cash budget statement, and 26800 in the Income Statement. So well done!

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Re: 2012 Unit 4 Exam Discussion- How was it?
« Reply #202 on: November 12, 2012, 07:26:43 pm »
Hi, can someone estimate my study score please?

Mid-year: mid or high A (let's assume 72/90)
SACs: rank 1 in a strong cohort (question: would my score here be based on the average of the two highest scores from both exams, or the average of the single highest scorer across both exams?). Both cases would give an average around 84+/90.
End-of-year exam: high A+ (85+/90)

SS Estimator says 42-47 for me.

What do you think?


A for the first exam will cost you , and if you are ranked 1 in a cohort and got approx 72/90 for exam one then id say maximum 42

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Re: 2012 Unit 4 Exam Discussion- How was it?
« Reply #203 on: November 12, 2012, 07:26:56 pm »
Hi, can someone estimate my study score please?

Mid-year: mid or high A (let's assume 72/90)
SACs: rank 1 in a strong cohort (question: would my score here be based on the average of the two highest scores from both exams, or the average of the single highest scorer across both exams?). Both cases would give an average around 84+/90.
End-of-year exam: high A+ (85+/90)

SS Estimator says 42-47 for me.

What do you think?

I'd say with 85/90 in the exam 2, you'd end up with a SS of 42 - 43

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Re: 2012 Unit 4 Exam Discussion- How was it?
« Reply #204 on: November 12, 2012, 07:27:56 pm »
Hi, can someone estimate my study score please?

Mid-year: mid or high A (let's assume 72/90)
SACs: rank 1 in a strong cohort (question: would my score here be based on the average of the two highest scores from both exams, or the average of the single highest scorer across both exams?). Both cases would give an average around 84+/90.
End-of-year exam: high A+ (85+/90)

SS Estimator says 42-47 for me.

What do you think?

I'd say with 85/90 in the exam 2, you'd end up with a SS of 42 - 43




agreed :)

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Re: 2012 Unit 4 Exam Discussion- How was it?
« Reply #205 on: November 12, 2012, 07:29:04 pm »
Toto:

Your interpretation on the first question is right I believe. I didn't have a problem with it, although I do see where you're coming from!

The whole prepaid office expense thing made sense IMO, it was to separate the top students I think... They PAID 28000, therefore 28000 in the cash budget statement, and 26800 in the Income Statement. So well done!

And the first question, yeah.. "Cost per item" made me assume that it was "Cost of Sales" at the start but it just didn't make sense for the supplier to just give the cost price and reveal the mark-up

My whole issue was that they paid 28000 but why has it been put in the Budgeted Income Statement, it just makes no sense whatsoever!

Thanks Liam :) haha I'm hoping for a super high score in this subject!
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Re: 2012 Unit 4 Exam Discussion- How was it?
« Reply #206 on: November 12, 2012, 07:29:40 pm »
@ toto you have the cost of sales and stock control entries reversed, hopefully you didn't do that on your exam!
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Re: 2012 Unit 4 Exam Discussion- How was it?
« Reply #207 on: November 12, 2012, 07:30:06 pm »
lol at the people saying the cutoff will be cupidinously high


lets go back to unit 3

"OMG IT WAS SO HARD AND SO LONG"

"THE A+ CUT OFF WILL BE THE LOWEST EVER"

 nek minnut..... exactly the same lol.

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Re: 2012 Unit 4 Exam Discussion- How was it?
« Reply #208 on: November 12, 2012, 07:30:44 pm »
I recorded sales return at 550 (500+50) and stock control/cost of sales at 250, however you make a good point at how the wording of 'cost per item' may confuse people. Says sales are at 100% on cost then says 'cost price', might have confused people.

I didn't like the wording of Q3 either - seemed quite a change from all the practice exams I did, where they give you dot points, this one looked like a jumbled mess. I agree with you way in which you handled prepaid office expense, I completely ignored it, and looking at it now it looks a bit confusing. I assume it was 800 at start, paid 28,000 for prepaid, and 26,000 was allocated as expense of that amount.

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Re: 2012 Unit 4 Exam Discussion- How was it?
« Reply #209 on: November 12, 2012, 07:32:10 pm »
This is how I interpret Office Expenses:

Office Expenses paid is 28000 (So all of this technically is bought as prepaid, then as you use it up, it becomes an expense)

Office Expenses incurred was 28000+800-2000=26800 (you would have consumed to 800 from last period, and everything else except 2000 at the end of the budgeted period
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