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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2009, 10:10:44 pm »
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At my school, we have about 25 people put in an accelerated class at the start of year 9, and we did GMA in year 10, followed by 1/2 methods in year 11. No one at my school does 3/4 methods in year 11 and of my class from year 9, there have been only two changes in over 3 years.
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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #31 on: July 05, 2009, 10:03:34 am »
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nahh, my schools funny. weve been allowed to do as many as 3 yr 12's in yr 11.

but to so, we need an average of 95% in all 3 to do all three yr 12's in yr 11
90% to do 2 year 12's in year 11
and 85% to do 1 year 12 in year 11

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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #32 on: July 05, 2009, 01:41:44 pm »
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at year 8 we did a test and at year 9 we started wear 10 maths so our school skips yr 9 maths.
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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2009, 02:00:14 am »
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yea same same
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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2009, 10:42:06 pm »
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yeah our school should allow methods in yr11

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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2009, 08:46:48 pm »
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surprisingly some schools allow 3 accelerated subjects :S
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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2009, 09:04:10 pm »
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Our school has been running an accelerated learning program for the past few years (SEALP). You basically do the important stuff of year 7 quickly, then start on the year 8 things. Somethings are still covered as normal in the year level. So by the end of year nine, you have done year 10 maths,  and equivalent to year 10 English and science. This allows the students in the class to do more year 11 subjects in year 10, and not let them get bored in in junior school.

Some students do year 11 subjects without doing yr 10 anyway, especially easier ones such as I.T and P.E. Our school does not offer GMA or English Language anymore, though it used to. I did yr 11 English language in yr 10 but they stopped running language the year after. I really hate that because I currently really dislike regular English but loved English Language back then. Many students from the accelerated learning program do yr 11 methods in yr 10. Then in year 12 they do specialist. This year, all but one of the whole SIX students doing specialist did 3/4 methods last year. Next year there will be about 10 doing specialist and and 8 are doing methods this year.

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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2009, 09:07:45 pm »
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surprisingly some schools allow 3 accelerated subjects :S
If a student is capable of doing so many yr 11 subjects, then they should be able to. Maybe they should have started school a year earlier if they were really bright.
I did 4 year 11 subjects in year 10 and found it pretty easy. Methods was the only really difficult subject though. I was pretty average. Hence, my low score last year.

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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2009, 07:33:43 pm »
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Sorry, i don;t get it, why would they ban you? I had a similar incident in English (a bit off topic), teacher wouldn't write a recommendation to allow us to do English 3/4, even though our whole accelerated class did english 1/2 in year 10...........so i moved schools. Also, one of my past teachers wouldn't let a student drop maths because they would only have done 5 subjects not 6, or something like that. I find it ridiculous since it's YOUR VCE. The whole point of it is to do subjects YOU want so you can be motivated to DO WELL.
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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2009, 12:06:55 am »
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You're allowed to do it at my school.

shinny, why have they banned it at MHS?
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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #40 on: August 31, 2009, 12:25:56 am »
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You're allowed to do it at my school.

shinny, why have they banned it at MHS?

It's just been MHS's policy not to allow acceleration of any core subjects. Not too sure about the rationale behind it though.
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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #41 on: August 31, 2009, 10:31:52 am »
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To be fair, as a result MHS ends up with the highest results in Methods/Spesh every year.  According to my friend who's retaking Methods this year (after screwing it up last year), doing Methods and Spesh at the same time makes it so that Methods is a LOT easier.
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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2009, 08:12:05 pm »
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To be fair, as a result MHS ends up with the highest results in Methods/Spesh every year.  According to my friend who's retaking Methods this year (after screwing it up last year), doing Methods and Spesh at the same time makes it so that Methods is a LOT easier.

Very true. Although this also means that people doing methods/spesh together are more likely to bludge methods, particularly until probability, whereas if you do it as a Year 11 3/4 with an aim of doing spesh nex year you may take it a lot more seriously.
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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2009, 08:25:30 pm »
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To be fair, as a result MHS ends up with the highest results in Methods/Spesh every year.  According to my friend who's retaking Methods this year (after screwing it up last year), doing Methods and Spesh at the same time makes it so that Methods is a LOT easier.

Very true. Although this also means that people doing methods/spesh together are more likely to bludge methods, particularly until probability, whereas if you do it as a Year 11 3/4 with an aim of doing spesh nex year you may take it a lot more seriously.

That's what happened with me, but I guess it still turned out alright =\ I walked into the exam thinking I'd get <45 at least given that I concentrated on spesh all year, but there's just too much overlap and synergy between the two I guess. The key thing is that spesh really pressure trains you in not making any mistakes given that some questions (well at least the ones I did) could take a page or more. The best practise I remember doing was turning into partial fractions (without complex numbers that is). Took me a good 3 pages, but I got a lot out of it in terms of learning to stay calm amidst chaos.
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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #44 on: August 31, 2009, 09:51:12 pm »
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It's not so much the difficulty of methods/specialist. It's more that most year 11 students (and many year 12 students) don't have the maturity to achieve excellence in an important year 12 subject, because they don't realise its importance and are not dedicated enough to put in the effort to get that extra high score.
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