CAS Calculator

[fdhgdzh]

I'm not very happy right now, there's only three chemistry students in my class, and like all of you, we just sat the exam. Myself and one of the other students followed the rules, and brought in a scientific calculator, whereas the other brought in A CAS CALCULATOR. Our teacher wasn't there to meet us before the exam, and the examiners made it clear that we could only bring in a scientific calculator, but didn't bother checking what calculators we actually had. So the person who brought the CAS calculator in, got away with using it. I'm pretty frustrated, as there could have been notes on the CAS calculator. I'd love to dob on this person, but I'm not too sure how to go about it, because I can't exactly prove that he/she had it. Does anyone have any suggestions, or should I just let it go, and hope that there were no notes on this persons calculator?

[Stevensmay]

I'm not very happy right now, there's only three chemistry students in my class, and like all of you, we just sat the exam. Myself and one of the other students followed the rules, and brought in a scientific calculator, whereas the other brought in A CAS CALCULATOR. Our teacher wasn't there to meet us before the exam, and the examiners made it clear that we could only bring in a scientific calculator, but didn't bother checking what calculators we actually had. So the person who brought the CAS calculator in, got away with using it. I'm pretty frustrated, as there could have been notes on the CAS calculator. I'd love to dob on this person, but I'm not too sure how to go about it, because I can't exactly prove that he/she had it. Does anyone have any suggestions, or should I just let it go, and hope that there were no notes on this persons calculator?

Why didn't you point it out to the examiners during the exam? Even in reading time, would have been the logical thing to do.

Not as much can be done now, I suggest speaking to your VCE co-ordinator but you don't really have much evidence.

[fdhgdzh]

Why didn't you point it out to the examiners during the exam? Even in reading time, would have been the logical thing to do.

Not as much can be done now, I suggest speaking to your VCE co-ordinator but you don't really have much evidence.

I was so close to doing it, I regret leaving it, but there were only three of us in a massive room with two examiners 

[Damoz.G]

As Stevensmay said, the only thing you can do is tell your VCE Coordinator. Even that is a bit too late now though. =/

[chasej]

I'm not very happy right now, there's only three chemistry students in my class, and like all of you, we just sat the exam. Myself and one of the other students followed the rules, and brought in a scientific calculator, whereas the other brought in A CAS CALCULATOR. Our teacher wasn't there to meet us before the exam, and the examiners made it clear that we could only bring in a scientific calculator, but didn't bother checking what calculators we actually had. So the person who brought the CAS calculator in, got away with using it. I'm pretty frustrated, as there could have been notes on the CAS calculator. I'd love to dob on this person, but I'm not too sure how to go about it, because I can't exactly prove that he/she had it. Does anyone have any suggestions, or should I just let it go, and hope that there were no notes on this persons calculator?

The only thing you can do is speak to your VCE co-ordinator. VCAA has the right to check and confiscate anything brought into the exam room for investigative purposes, whether or not this right gives VCAA the ability to confiscate items after the exam is the question in this case.

The only hope you have if the person was cheating is that they would retrieve the calculator and search it for any notes etc. (if the person is stupid enough not to have already cleared the calculator).

Also are you 110% it wasn't a scientific calculator (would be bad to make a false allegation).

[Dayman]

Don't worry about it if he/she exam marks are great then your marks will improve as well. There's no need to dob think of it as mutually beneficial. And you want to save the drama.

Now if I was saying this in a student perspective I would say to dob on him so that I have one less person to compete with and have an advantage over you and your classmate.

[fdhgdzh]

The only thing you can do is speak to your VCE co-ordinator. VCAA has the right to check and confiscate anything brought into the exam room for investigative purposes, whether or not this right gives VCAA the ability to confiscate items after the exam is the question in this case.

The only hope you have if the person was cheating is that they would retrieve the calculator and search it for any notes etc. (if the person is stupid enough not to have already cleared the calculator).

Also are you 110% it wasn't a scientific calculator (would be bad to make a false allegation).

Yeah 100 percent sure, it was definitely a CAS calculator; unless there is a scientific calculator that is one inch thick and dark black...haha. I'm going to speak to my VCE co-ordinator tomorrow, I guess I'll know for sure that the person in question cheated if my mark is beat, since I was rank one, and the 'cheater' performed poorly on sacs all year.

[Damoz.G]

Yeah 100 percent sure, it was definitely a CAS calculator; unless there is a scientific calculator that is one inch thick and dark black...haha. I'm going to speak to my VCE co-ordinator tomorrow, I guess I'll know for sure that the person in question cheated if my mark is beat, since I was rank one, and the 'cheater' performed poorly on sacs all year.

Personally, I wouldn't wait until tomorrow. E-Mail or phone your VCE Coordinator today. 

Wayyyyy too late to make any statements tomorrow. If you wait until tomorrow, I don't think there's even a point in letting him/her know.

Just my opinion.

BTW: What did the other student say about it?

[Stevensmay]

You need to speak to them today.
Allegations of cheating are quite serious and if they are going to be reported they need to be reported promptly.
Call or email your co-ordinator if you have to.

I still cannot fathom why you couldn't subtly tell the examiners but oh well.

[esbee]

Why would you dob, them being successful can only be helpful for your study score, it's too late to prove anything and 99.9% chance they weren't cheating.

[fdhgdzh]

Personally, I wouldn't wait until tomorrow. E-Mail or phone your VCE Coordinator today. 

Wayyyyy too late to make any statements tomorrow. If you wait until tomorrow, I don't think there's even a point in letting him/her know.

Just my opinion.

BTW: What did the other student say about it?

That's the thing, I don't think the other student realized. He/she was seated at the back, behind myself and the other rule abiding student. I saw the CAS calculator when said person was sitting down before we went in, it was the only one he/she had.

I went in today but the VCE co-ordinator was absent. I was thinking of sending an email, but I'd rather discuss it in person. I'm just worried that they won't be able to prove this person used a CAS calculator.

[fdhgdzh]

Why would you dob, them being successful can only be helpful for your study score, it's too late to prove anything and 99.9% chance they weren't cheating.

Yeah I understand how it can benefit my score, but it's still cheating. This person has a scientific calculator, I've seen them use it in class, I can't think of any reason as to why they would bring a CAS calculator in, when they have a scientific one anyway. Idk but if I had of brought in a CAS calculator I would have put notes on it lel.

[Chazef]

consider maybe the rest of the state and how his illegitimately higher score will affect (however minutely) everybody else Jussayin

[hobbitle]

Dude forget about it. You deal with this sort of "it's unfair" shit at Uni all the time (usually group assignments when someone doesn't do anything). They're only hurting themselves in the long run and you look petty by making a big deal out of it...

[monty]

go up to them and tell them "i know what you did, and if you want me to be quiet, it will cost you..." haha jokes, but seriously there is no benefit for yourself if you do so..