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[LiquidPaperz]

Yes I doubt many lecturers would care but the university would have something to say about people getting essentially "free" education.

thats what i was thinking, like a la trobe student doing commerce could pop into Melbourne commerce.

i contacted unimelb and ill see what they say, any ideas what lectures would do IF caught?
hate to be on their blacklist before i even enrol...

[mahler004]

thats what i was thinking, like a la trobe student doing commerce could pop into Melbourne commerce.

i contacted unimelb and ill see what they say, any ideas what lectures would do IF caught?
hate to be on their blacklist before i even enrol...

They won't 'catch' you, and even if they catch you, they won't care.

[silverpixeli]

Yes I doubt many lecturers would care but the university would have something to say about people getting essentially "free" education.

idk if this is the uni's position, but like education is free anyway. you can't 'just rock up' to the tutes, labs, hand in assignments and sit exams and you certainly can't get credit for subjects without being enrolled.
IMO the lectures are kinda just a convenient source of knowledge, and you're paying for the other stuff and the degree. the knowledge can be found at free educational sites and from universities that have made their courseware open (e.g. MIT).

Plus, like, going to lectures is really a drag, so going to a separate campus to get to lectures multiple times a week would suck.

EDIT: okay this might not be the case for all units in all areas, it's just based on my experience with first year maths/physics/IT/japanese

[LiquidPaperz]

idk if this is the uni's position, but like education is free anyway. you can't 'just rock up' to the tutes, labs, hand in assignments and sit exams and you certainly can't get credit for subjects without being enrolled.
IMO the lectures are kinda just a convenient source of knowledge, and you're paying for the other stuff and the degree. the knowledge can be found at free educational sites and from universities that have made their courseware open (e.g. MIT).

Plus, like, going to lectures is really a drag, so going to a separate campus to get to lectures multiple times a week would suck.

EDIT: okay this might not be the case for all units in all areas, it's just based on my experience with first year maths/physics/IT/japanese

it was just a once off, maybe twice just to see how it is.. nothing full on

[unimelb]

Update 4.20pm, 15/10/2014
Hi silverpixeli,

Thanks for waiting while we investigated this for you. The Engineering and IT Student Centre has advised that unfortunately there are no fee exemptions offered for the Diploma in Informatics. As this website suggests, this offer is still valid for the Diploma in Mathematical Sciences or the Diploma of Languages.

- Bronwyn

Original Post, 14/10/2014
Hey everyone, we hope you've all had a great week! It's Bronwyn and Miriam here today.

A few weeks ago I found out about concurrent diplomas and considered adding a diploma in mathematics to my computing and software systems major. After more research I'm now looking at doing a major in mathematical physics + a concurrent diploma in informatics, so I can do more physics subjects.
I see from the handbook that both diplomas offer cross-crediting of up to 50 points, I'm interested to know if the informatics diploma offers the same fee exemption for the final 50 points as the maths and languages diplomas offer.

Hi silverpixeli,

This is a great question! We’re so sorry we don’t yet have an answer for you – we've been in touch with the Engineering and IT Student Centre and they're looking further into this. We’ll update this post when we have more information for you.

- Bronwyn

Hi I'm not sure if this is a stupid question. But my and my friend were interested in doing commerce in 2016 at unimelb, and were wondering if we are allowed to come to one of the lectures and just sit at the back and listen even though we aren't uni students? Under any circumstances is this allowed and does this happen often?

What happens if we are caught without it being allowed (say I didn't ask on AN and went in etc)

Hi LiquidPaperz,

While it’s true that anyone can essentially just wander in, we’d discourage people who aren’t enrolled from attending standard lectures as many of lecture theatres are booked based on accommodating only enrolled students, and we need to ensure that these students are all able to attend and that we do everything to provide a safe environment by not overcrowding the theatres. As notveryasian also mentioned, you may not get the best experience from plunging straight into a lecture mid or late semester as the content will assume knowledge from earlier weeks and possibly earlier subjects.

If you’re interested in getting some of the experience of attending lectures and studying at Melbourne while you’re still at school, you can also check out these options:

• some selected Unimelb courses are available online for free via Coursera
• our Course Information Day coming up on Wednesday 17 December

- Bronwyn

I'm interested in sonography and I was wondering is there a course avaliable at melb uni? If so which undergraduate and graduate courses do i have to look at?

Hi allstar,

Unfortunately we don’t offer any dedicated sonography courses at the University. While we do offer three Ultrasound courses UoM Commercial (the Master of Clinical Ultrasound, the Graduate Certificate in Clinical Ultrasound and the Graduate Diploma in Clinical Ultrasound), you need to be a qualified doctor in order to apply.

I've spoken with the Ultrasound team about study options, and they've recommended that you visit the Australasian Sonographers Association’s website for comprehensive information on how to become a sonographer.

If you would like to search other Undergrad and Graduate medical degrees at Unimelb, try using our Course Search tool to see what takes your interest.

I hope you find this information useful!

- Bronwyn

[Russ]

Hi Bronwyn & Miriam. Do you know anything about taking a leave of absence between the end of semester 1 2015 and the start of semester 2 2016 for a final year MD student (ie how easy it is to get approved)?

[unimelb]

Hi Bronwyn & Miriam. Do you know anything about taking a leave of absence between the end of semester 1 2015 and the start of semester 2 2016 for a final year MD student (ie how easy it is to get approved)?

Hi Russ,

Doctor of Medicine students can certainly apply for a 6 month or 12 month Leave of Absence during their course. You can check out the conditions and process here and you can find more information on Medical School Policies here.

Unfortunately we don’t know how easy it is to get an approval for a 12 month leave of absence, however there is an process listed in the MD Leave of Absence policy if you wish to appeal against a decision. If you want to chat with someone about your leave options, it’s best to speak to a student adviser at the MDHS Student Centre.

- Bronwyn

[Rod]

Hi UniMelb. My sister goes to SCHS. Why is Suzanne Cory High School listed as an under-represented school? And what benefits do they get for being in the under represented list?

Thanks

[unimelb]

Hi UniMelb. My sister goes to SCHS. Why is Suzanne Cory High School listed as an under-represented school? And what benefits do they get for being in the under represented list?

Hi Rod,

The under-represented schools SEAS category is defined as Victorian schools that have an average of 20 or more Year 12 VTAC applicants per year over the past three years and:

• have 61% or fewer applicants enrolled in a tertiary institution and 14% or fewer of these enrolled at the University of Melbourne, or;
• have between 61% and 78% of applicants enrolled in a tertiary institution and 8% or fewer of these enrolled at the University of Melbourne

While this category isn’t an eligible criteria for Guaranteed Entry, if your sister has submitted a SEAS application (before 5pm on Tuesday 7 October) then her application will be assessed for other Access Melbourne benefits such as Access Melbourne Scholarships.

Applicants eligible for the Under-represented school category will be considered on an individual basis by the University, however it’s not possible to predict in advance the difference their SEAS application will make. Please be assured that each SEAS application is considered individually by the University.

- Bronwyn

[LiquidPaperz]

Hey everyone, we hope you've all had a great week! It's Bronwyn and Miriam here today.
Hi silverpixeli,

This is a great question! We’re so sorry we don’t yet have an answer for you – we've been in touch with the Engineering and IT Student Centre and they're looking further into this. We’ll update this post when we have more information for you.

- Bronwyn
Hi LiquidPaperz,

While it’s true that anyone can essentially just wander in, we’d discourage people who aren’t enrolled from attending standard lectures as many of lecture theatres are booked based on accommodating only enrolled students, and we need to ensure that these students are all able to attend and that we do everything to provide a safe environment by not overcrowding the theatres. As notveryasian also mentioned, you may not get the best experience from plunging straight into a lecture mid or late semester as the content will assume knowledge from earlier weeks and possibly earlier subjects.

If you’re interested in getting some of the experience of attending lectures and studying at Melbourne while you’re still at school, you can also check out these options:

• some selected Unimelb courses are available online for free via Coursera
• our Course Information Day coming up on Wednesday 17 December

- Bronwyn
Hi allstar,

Unfortunately we don’t offer any dedicated sonography courses at the University. While we do offer three Ultrasound courses UoM Commercial (the Master of Clinical Ultrasound, the Graduate Certificate in Clinical Ultrasound and the Graduate Diploma in Clinical Ultrasound), you need to be a qualified doctor in order to apply.

I've spoken with the Ultrasound team about study options, and they've recommended that you visit the Australasian Sonographers Association’s website for comprehensive information on how to become a sonographer.

If you would like to search other Undergrad and Graduate medical degrees at Unimelb, try using our Course Search tool to see what takes your interest.

I hope you find this information useful!

- Bronwyn

would it possible just to enter one or two  lectures on the one day just to see how it is, and not necessarily learn.

- is their any chance professors may kick you out for thinking your too young/ shouldnt be there etc? if the lecture is not packed would we be welcomed in?

thanks

[Russ]

would it possible just to enter one or two  lectures on the one day just to see how it is, and not necessarily learn.

- is their any chance professors may kick you out for thinking your too young/ shouldnt be there etc? if the lecture is not packed would we be welcomed in?

thanks

The university won't formally endorse people not enrolled in subjects going to those lectures for various reasons, OHS and otherwise.

[simpak]

Hi Bronwyn and Miriam,

I'm currently in 1st year biomed, doing the Bioengineering Systems pathway, and trying to decide between majors for my degree. The ones that I'm most interested in (Bioengineering Systems, or Microbiology & Immunology) both have prerequisites that have to be done in 2nd semester of 2nd year.

I'd really like to be able to keep my options open until 3rd year if I can, though, so would I be allowed to do two selectives in 2nd year (and no breadth), and make up for the missed breadth subject in 3rd year?

Thanks heaps

I am neither of those people, but the answer to your question is yes.
You just need to do a minimum of 4 breadth and a maximum of 6. There is no rule to say you must take one breadth per semester; you can take four science/Biomed subjects in a single semester if you like, you can take multiple breadth subjects in the same semester if you like.
Plus, if you're only taking four breadth overall (the minimum) you /must/ have at least two semesters in which you take no breadth.
Why don't you just do less than 6 breadth and then you won't have to make up for the missed breadth in third year at all?

[mahler004]

I am neither of those people, but the answer to your question is yes.
You just need to do a minimum of 4 breadth and a maximum of 6. There is no rule to say you must take one breadth per semester; you can take four science/Biomed subjects in a single semester if you like, you can take multiple breadth subjects in the same semester if you like.
Plus, if you're only taking four breadth overall (the minimum) you /must/ have at least two semesters in which you take no breadth.
Why don't you just do less than 6 breadth and then you won't have to make up for the missed breadth in third year at all?

Can also do summer/winter semester as well.

[silverpixeli]

Update 4.20pm, 15/10/2014
Hi silverpixeli,

Thanks for waiting while we investigated this for you. The Engineering and IT Student Centre has advised that unfortunately there are no fee exemptions offered for the Diploma in Informatics. As this website suggests, this offer is still valid for the Diploma in Mathematical Sciences or the Diploma of Languages.

- Bronwyn

thanks guys!

[atar100]

Hi Unimelb,

Is there anyway I can book a course advice appointment to see if I meet the prerequisites for science with my Uni subjects? I don't want to pay the late vtac fee if I don't meet them.

Also, is it possible to graduate from a Unimelb science degree after only studying there for one year and gaining credit for two years worth of science subjects from another Uni?