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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3615 on: April 15, 2018, 01:41:25 pm »
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Hey,
So, "Newspeak" is a neologism which is a term coined by Orwell and is associated as an Orwellian "term". LiteraryDevices.net explains the function of this very elegantly as "the task of a good neologism is to create new meanings of some abstract or material ideas that are evolving in new environments.", which I think Newspeak tries to encapsulate as well. Orwell uses Newspeak to demonstrate that meaning and words are never "rigid" by structure, and can often be manipulated by context.

Hopefully, this helps with your analysis :)

This really helped, thankyou so much for such a quick response!! xx
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3616 on: April 15, 2018, 03:46:04 pm »
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Hello.

What does the term rhetorical mean in the question

"How have rhetorical techniques been used to review the memorable ideas in the speeches set for study?"

Google says rhetoric means the art of effective or persuasive speaking or writing, especially the exploitation of figures of speech and other compositional techniques.
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language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect, but which is often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content.

Is this what is referenced in the question?



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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3617 on: April 15, 2018, 04:00:16 pm »
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Hello.

What does the term rhetorical mean in the question

"How have rhetorical techniques been used to review the memorable ideas in the speeches set for study?"

Google says rhetoric means the art of effective or persuasive speaking or writing, especially the exploitation of figures of speech and other compositional techniques.
And/or
language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect, but which is often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content.

Is this what is referenced in the question?

Hey! Yep, essentially - It just means speech/literary techniques ;D

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3618 on: April 15, 2018, 04:08:16 pm »
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Hello.

What does the term rhetorical mean in the question

"How have rhetorical techniques been used to review the memorable ideas in the speeches set for study?"

Google says rhetoric means the art of effective or persuasive speaking or writing, especially the exploitation of figures of speech and other compositional techniques.
And/or
language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect, but which is often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content.

Is this what is referenced in the question?

Hey, mxrylyn.

Rhetoric is exactly how Google has defined it; when we're describing rhetoric devices, we mean techniques such as the way a certain speaker emphasises an idea, the certain attributes they associate certain phrases, and the ways in which authors symbolise a concept.

When you're listening to the speeches, consider the cadence (intentional pauses). How does that influence the way in which we attain the information they're conveying. When you're listening to the speeches, consider how they repeat certain phrases. They are often the ideas in which they aim to emphasise throughout the speech.

Certain techniques that become rhetoric can be:

Adage: short and memorable phrases that have become universally true.

Amplification: embellishments to an idea (added information)

Analogy: a story in place of an abstract notion

Repetition

You can find more on LiteraryDevices

Hopefully, this gives you more insight into the needs of the question.

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3619 on: April 15, 2018, 04:38:52 pm »
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Hello.

What does the term rhetorical mean in the question

"How have rhetorical techniques been used to review the memorable ideas in the speeches set for study?"

Google says rhetoric means the art of effective or persuasive speaking or writing, especially the exploitation of figures of speech and other compositional techniques.
And/or
language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect, but which is often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content.

Is this what is referenced in the question?
Hey there,
Pretty sure Jamon and Opengangs has made it perfectly clear what rhetoric is, but let me just clarify with the definitions of rhetoric.

It's essentially the ability to persuade someone. The reason why the question addresses rhetoric in speeches is because when you listen to speeches, there's generally a political agenda. Aristotle basically describes the importance of rhetoric in a democratic society: 'There is no great mystery in the fact that it took the rise of democracies and otherwise open societies at Athens and elsewhere to create the climate in which public eloquence became political indispensability.' --> Legit quote from Aristotle's 'The Art of Rhetoric'

You see this a lot during election season, which is why a catchy phrase is really important. Just look at Emma Gonzalez with her viral phrase 'We call B.S'- it's catchy to not just adults, but also teens yet keeps it PG13. Opengangs has given you a great list of techniques above.

Hope this (along with Jamon and Opengangs' response) helps!
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3620 on: April 16, 2018, 11:23:47 am »
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Hey there,
Pretty sure Jamon and Opengangs has made it perfectly clear what rhetoric is, but let me just clarify with the definitions of rhetoric.

It's essentially the ability to persuade someone. The reason why the question addresses rhetoric in speeches is because when you listen to speeches, there's generally a political agenda. Aristotle basically describes the importance of rhetoric in a democratic society: 'There is no great . mystery in the fact that it took the rise of democracies and otherwise open societies at Athens and elsewhere to create the climate in which public eloquence became political indispensability.' --> Legit quote from Aristotle's 'The Art of Rhetoric'

You see this a lot during election season, which is why a catchy phrase is really important. Just look at Emma Gonzalez with her viral phrase 'We call B.S'- it's catchy to not just adults, but also teens yet keeps it PG13. Opengangs has given you a great list of techniques above.

Hope this (along with Jamon and Opengangs' response) helps!



Thanks you. I love the range of details responses I get in the AN forums.

Is Aristotle's Art Of The Rhetoric where he introduced logos ethos and pathos?

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3621 on: April 16, 2018, 12:54:21 pm »
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Thanks you. I love the range of details responses I get in the AN forums.

Is Aristotle's Art Of The Rhetoric where he introduced logos ethos and pathos?
Hey there,
Not sure if he exactly used the words logos, ethos and pathos but he did discuss the 'demonstration' and 'emotion and character.' But to be honest, I never finished his book because it's so dry lol (even the translator describes Aristotle as dry in the preface lmao).
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3622 on: April 21, 2018, 10:20:58 am »
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Hello everyone !

Does anyone happen to have any notes or information about Module C and the text: Wag the Dog. All information is much appreciated :) 
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3623 on: April 21, 2018, 11:37:28 am »
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Hello everyone !

Does anyone happen to have any notes or information about Module C and the text: Wag the Dog. All information is much appreciated :)

Hey you can find some info here in our Notes section on Wag the Dog :)
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« Reply #3624 on: April 22, 2018, 09:38:32 am »
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Hey you can find some info here in our Notes section on Wag the Dog :)

Thank you so much!  :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3625 on: April 28, 2018, 11:06:39 am »
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Is King Richard considered the protagonist or antagonist?
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3626 on: April 29, 2018, 09:46:32 am »
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Is King Richard considered the protagonist or antagonist?
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Hey, there!

To be safe, I believe you should refer to him as a tragic hero because that’s essentially what most of Shakespeare’s protagonist-antagonist characters are. Just wait for confirmation from one of the other moderators in case I’m mistaken  ;D
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3627 on: April 29, 2018, 10:07:08 am »
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Hey, there!

To be safe, I believe you should refer to him as a tragic hero because that’s essentially what most of Shakespeare’s protagonist-antagonist characters are. Just wait for confirmation from one of the other moderators in case I’m mistaken  ;D

That makes sense... I guess there isn't really a 'one fits all' basis when it comes to Shakespeare.
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3628 on: April 29, 2018, 12:20:05 pm »
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Hey, there!

To be safe, I believe you should refer to him as a tragic hero because that’s essentially what most of Shakespeare’s protagonist-antagonist characters are. Just wait for confirmation from one of the other moderators in case I’m mistaken  ;D

You don't need our confirmation - Sounds like you know Shakespeare 10x better than me ;)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3629 on: April 29, 2018, 05:40:39 pm »
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Hey guys,
So I'm organising my notes on 1984 and I was skimming through the appendix. Considering how the appendix is written in standard english and in past tense rather than in Newspeak, would it be too much of a stretch to assume that the freedom of language eventually prevails? To me, this book is kinda set out like a textbook. Also, would quoting parts of the appendix be worth including in essays?

Thanks in advance.
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