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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3630 on: April 30, 2018, 05:01:28 pm »
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Hey guys,
So I'm organising my notes on 1984 and I was skimming through the appendix. Considering how the appendix is written in standard english and in past tense rather than in Newspeak, would it be too much of a stretch to assume that the freedom of language eventually prevails? To me, this book is kinda set out like a textbook. Also, would quoting parts of the appendix be worth including in essays?

Thanks in advance.

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I saw this in a crash course video by John Green! I thought this was a very interesting theory. If it were to be true that the freedom of language eventually prevails, then I guess you could even argue that Orwell's perspective wasn't completely pessimistic and that there was some hope. Although this isn't very set in stone so I wouldn't go as far as to quote it in essays. Also, in the book's introduction, I believe it discusses how 1984 was Orwell's last novel and the rise of totalitarian regimes in Europe galvanised his need to shock and provoke audiences to reject totalitarianism, explaining his nihilistic denouement and his negative outlook. I think this argument is more concrete than saying Orwell believed that freedom of language would prevail no matter what. Nevertheless, I thought it was still a very fascinating thought and made me feel a little better after that horrible ending!

Here's the link if you wanted to check out John Green's video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9ipRaLa4Jw
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3631 on: April 30, 2018, 05:16:05 pm »
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I had another look at that video... turns out a few critics, including Thomas Pynchon and Margaret Atwood, agree with you and have pointed out that the use of standard English in the appendix suggests free thought and free speech will ultimately prevail. Maybe if you back your argument up with these critics you'd be able to make a solid argument in an essay  :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3632 on: May 01, 2018, 12:49:47 pm »
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Hey guys,
So I'm organising my notes on 1984 and I was skimming through the appendix. Considering how the appendix is written in standard english and in past tense rather than in Newspeak, would it be too much of a stretch to assume that the freedom of language eventually prevails? To me, this book is kinda set out like a textbook. Also, would quoting parts of the appendix be worth including in essays?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3633 on: May 01, 2018, 04:23:15 pm »
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Hey guys,
So I'm organising my notes on 1984 and I was skimming through the appendix. Considering how the appendix is written in standard english and in past tense rather than in Newspeak, would it be too much of a stretch to assume that the freedom of language eventually prevails? To me, this book is kinda set out like a textbook. Also, would quoting parts of the appendix be worth including in essays?

Thanks in advance.
Our class had a 70 minute arguement regarding whether the party in 1984 would eventually fall and be defeated and the appendix was one of the main points to argue for this
Would love to revive that arguement, both sides have interesting points and it can be very well related to the context of our world
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3634 on: May 01, 2018, 07:52:33 pm »
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Our class had a 70 minute arguement regarding whether the party in 1984 would eventually fall and be defeated and the appendix was one of the main points to argue for this
Would love to revive that arguement, both sides have interesting points and it can be very well related to the context of our world
Omg yes! Kinda like the Modern History Debate Thread but possibly an English Debate Thread?

It would be pretty interesting to discuss that. The fact that 1984 is still relevant to our world is really interesting but also kinda scary. But I do think Margaret Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale is like the updated version of 1984 so it would be really cool to compare and contrast her ideas with Orwell's.
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3635 on: May 02, 2018, 08:32:17 pm »
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Hey, I recently got back HY results....  including a Metrop./1984 essay. I had a very interesting question:

Through their portrayal of human experiences, both Metropolis and Nineteen Eighty-Four reinforce the significance of resilience
To what extent is 'resilience' significant in the pair of texts you have studied?


I found this a particularly odd question, especially since as we had never even used the word 'resilience' in class before! I ended up talking about resistance, in the form of resilience, to power and control and I've received a pretty okay mark but I'm going to rewrite my essay so I can improve. But first, I'm interested to see how the AN community would tackle this question...

Any thoughts?  :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3636 on: May 03, 2018, 03:54:03 pm »
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Hey, I recently got back HY results....  including a Metrop./1984 essay. I had a very interesting question:

Through their portrayal of human experiences, both Metropolis and Nineteen Eighty-Four reinforce the significance of resilience
To what extent is 'resilience' significant in the pair of texts you have studied?


I found this a particularly odd question, especially since as we had never even used the word 'resilience' in class before! I ended up talking about resistance, in the form of resilience, to power and control and I've received a pretty okay mark but I'm going to rewrite my essay so I can improve. But first, I'm interested to see how the AN community would tackle this question...

Any thoughts?  :)
Not sure what kind of evidence i would use for it, but i would argue the extent is greater in metropolis due to maria and freder.
But you could also argue the resilience Winston shows against the party through most of the book.
There's probably a better way of doing it, but i would also look at notions of resistance and rebellion in the form of resilience.

I'm intrigued to hear what other people would think
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3637 on: May 03, 2018, 09:19:55 pm »
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Not sure what kind of evidence i would use for it, but i would argue the extent is greater in metropolis due to maria and freder.
But you could also argue the resilience Winston shows against the party through most of the book.
There's probably a better way of doing it, but i would also look at notions of resistance and rebellion in the form of resilience.

I'm intrigued to hear what other people would think

Looking back on it now, I guess you could say that the severity of power and social manipulation in both Metropolis and Oceania in 1984 elucidates the vitality of resilience, in order to survive the harsh conditions. Due to their differing contexts and personal experiences, the two composers display this in differing ways (Lang's optimistic view presents a utopic ending where mediation and resilience leads to empathy and understanding between classes) (Orwell demonstrates the dire consequences if resilience and vigilant action against contemporary totalitarian dictators were never to occur).

You could structure the body like:
2 paragraphs (1 for each) on the severity of power and control and social manipulation and how this calls for resilience
2 paragraphs on the the positive/negative consequences of displaying resilience/not showing resilience and how this shows it's significance.
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3638 on: May 04, 2018, 08:53:56 pm »
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How would you visually (in any form of medium) represent a self-discovery? I'm really stuck on this and my assessment is due in 3 days : (.
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3639 on: May 04, 2018, 10:37:31 pm »
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How would you visually (in any form of medium) represent a self-discovery? I'm really stuck on this and my assessment is due in 3 days : (.
Hey, Razeen25.

Self-discovery can embody a physical growth in your character. If you can show there is some sort of development in your character, then you will have shown "self-discovery". Some other ideas of self-discovery include:

-> Transformation in thought, physicality, mentality, spirituality.
-> Awareness of one's own potential.
-> Finding one's own true identity.
-> Revelations about one's past life.

These are all very vague ideas but give you an idea about what self-discoveries you could discuss within your creative. Let me know if you find them helpful! :)

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« Reply #3640 on: May 05, 2018, 03:49:41 am »
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Hey, Razeen25.

Self-discovery can embody a physical growth in your character. If you can show there is some sort of development in your character, then you will have shown "self-discovery". Some other ideas of self-discovery include:

-> Transformation in thought, physicality, mentality, spirituality.
-> Awareness of one's own potential.
-> Finding one's own true identity.
-> Revelations about one's past life.

These are all very vague ideas but give you an idea about what self-discoveries you could discuss within your creative. Let me know if you find them helpful! :)

Thank you, thank you, thank you! 😭
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3641 on: May 06, 2018, 07:07:58 am »
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Hello!! ;D
Just wondering if there is a technique for when an individual questions themself- is it still a rhetorical question? (they dont answer it so its not hypophora...)
its a self-narrated text that I am talking about...
sorry im so dumb!!! :o
(btw- would anyone be able to check if i am eligible to get an essay marked please and thanks?)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3642 on: May 06, 2018, 10:43:08 am »
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Hello!! ;D
Just wondering if there is a technique for when an individual questions themself- is it still a rhetorical question? (they dont answer it so its not hypophora...)
its a self-narrated text that I am talking about...
sorry im so dumb!!! :o
(btw- would anyone be able to check if i am eligible to get an essay marked please and thanks?)
Hey there,
I would say it's a rhetorical question! I mean, the whole point of a rhetorical question is to stimulate thought- at least, that's what I think.

As for the essay-marking, the rules of essay-marking has changed so there's no post requirement. You can find the rules here if you wanna read more on this.

Hope this helps!
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3643 on: May 12, 2018, 03:48:10 pm »
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Hey!!!
I was just wondering if anyone could find some more quotes in the below quote from Jane Eyre. I have extracted it out of my essay so u kinda get the context  :)

\At Thornfield, Jane is conscious to remind herself that a socially acceptable relationship with Rochester is impossible. “And you have derived pleasure from occasional tokens of preference – equivocal tokens shown by a gentleman of family and a man of the world to a dependent and a novice. How dared you? Poor stupid dupe!” Jane is aware of the social norms and conventions that bind not only her, but also the upper classes, demonstrated in the harsh tone she inflicts upon herself.

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3644 on: May 12, 2018, 04:04:51 pm »
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I was just wondering if anyone could find some more quotes in the below quote from Jane Eyre. I have extracted it out of my essay so u kinda get the context  :)

\At Thornfield, Jane is conscious to remind herself that a socially acceptable relationship with Rochester is impossible. “And you have derived pleasure from occasional tokens of preference – equivocal tokens shown by a gentleman of family and a man of the world to a dependent and a novice. How dared you? Poor stupid dupe!” Jane is aware of the social norms and conventions that bind not only her, but also the upper classes, demonstrated in the harsh tone she inflicts upon herself.

Hey! The exclamation and rhetorical question at the end jump out at me. You've also got repetition of the word 'token' ;D just a couple of quick ideas!