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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2625 on: August 01, 2017, 09:31:54 pm »
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Hi can someone help me with ideas for this essay question. 'Political motivation is ambiguous, but control is the ultimate control. Evaluate this statement with the prescribed text (The Crucible) and ONE related text (Animal Farm)'.
So my structure is similar to this:
Intro
Para 1 - The Crucible - Theme of vengence relating it with Abigail
Para 2 - Animal Farm - Totalitarianism and relating it with pigs
Para 3 -
Conclusion
Para three i don't really know what to talk about but i need to do something i can incorporate both text into one body.
Please HELP!!  :'( Thank you in advance!!!!

Are you able to address the "ambiguous" in the question in that third paragraph? To be honest, "control is the ultimate control" is a weird statement for me, not 100% sure what it means or how I'd interpret it actually.
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2626 on: August 01, 2017, 09:32:02 pm »
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Heeellppp!! I don't know whether I should do Lord of the Flies as my Discovery ORT. Will my arguments need to be really unique? I'm also wondering whether Pan's Labyrinth will be good for Discovery. Is it worth it analysing this text so late in the year or should I just look deep into Lord of the Flies and hope to find unique arguments if that's what's needed?

Does anyone have any suggestions of texts that go well with The Tempest or Brave New World that's easy to analyse? Or even better, anything that works for both prescribed texts?

Hey! There are a heap of related text ideas for Discovery here, they might be worth considering! For BNW specifically, V for Vendetta would be my personal pick ;D

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2627 on: August 01, 2017, 09:33:45 pm »
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Hey,
For English paper 1, the notification for our discovery essay tell us to prepare to write on 1 and/or 2 related texts.

Since they are being purposely obscure about it, the possibilities are either 1 related, 2 related or at least 1 related, how should I prepare for it?
Sorry if that's a bit confusing, I can clarify a bit more if you want.

Hey! Unless you are asked for 2 specifically, use one and do it well! If you get asked for 2, just use one from the Unseen Texts section - To me that is the best approach in general since 2 ORT's is so unlikely. Since your school is hinting it though, perhaps just have a spare text ready to go with a handful of quotes? :)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2628 on: August 01, 2017, 09:40:25 pm »
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Are you able to address the "ambiguous" in the question in that third paragraph? To be honest, "control is the ultimate control" is a weird statement for me, not 100% sure what it means or how I'd interpret it actually.

Hey Elyse, I did this practice question from the 2015 paper, I'm pretty sure they've mistyped it and meant to write control is the ultimate goal :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2629 on: August 02, 2017, 09:23:19 am »
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Hey, so through constructing an essay for Module C (my elective is people and landscapes and text is Art of Travel), I think I am overthinking the concept of 'representation' and I'm worried about just throwing the word into an argument with no context or evidence to support what I'm a saying.
So I was wondering if anyone has any clear ways of distinguishing what becomes a 'representation' within a text to help me through my overthinking of the concept.
Thanks!

Hey! Disclaimer: I’m also doing people and landscapes for Module C, but not Art of Travel (I’m doing Wright). I think the easiest way I can explain how I write about ‘representation’ is below:

1.   you have to know the context of your author, and how that relates to your poem. Is your author Indigenous? An environmentalist? Someone who couldn’t care less about the environment. This doesn’t have to be extensive – literally just a sentence will do – but you have to include it. For example, ‘___ stance as ___ is evident in their text’ and you’d introduce the text and identify your thesis/response to the question for that text
2.   you have to identify WHAT the text is saying about landscapes. If it’s different to what is being ‘done’ in the text, that’s okay. Not everything is every text is literal – writers use literary devices to construct a piece of work to talk about bigger ideas. In this case, it’s people and landscapes.
3.   mix steps one and two together and you have a basic method for talking about representation.

For example, Wright was a passionate environmentalist who dedicated her life towards getting people to connect with the Australian landscape (context). This is evident in one of her poems, ‘The Hawthorne Hedge’, where Wright uses a narrative of people secluding themselves from the natural world to stress the need for connecting with the landscape. Of course, you’d use analysis to back up the thesis, but that’s basically what you do.

(shortcut: ‘representation’ is really just talking about people and the land, and including a sentence about the author’s context that justifies their stance on this)
I hope this makes sense! I can attach a paragraph on Wright’s poetry if you want an example ‘in action’.

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2630 on: August 02, 2017, 10:56:33 pm »
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Hi,
Is iambic dimeter a technique? If so, what are some examples for it?

Also, our English notification stated that our paper 1 essay question may ask us to write in a form other than an extended response, e.g.. letter, interview etc.

Thanks.
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2631 on: August 03, 2017, 09:59:13 am »
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hi i was just wondering what the use of regatio was? It was from a module c essay i was looking at that said: 'In the McTeigue's film the oblivion of the populace to the crimes of Norsefire adn their loss of integriy is vigorously stressed by the scriptwriters through condescending use of regation throughout V's broadcast, such as "There is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there?"
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2632 on: August 03, 2017, 10:16:57 am »
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hi i was just wondering what the use of regatio was? It was from a module c essay i was looking at that said: 'In the McTeigue's film the oblivion of the populace to the crimes of Norsefire adn their loss of integriy is vigorously stressed by the scriptwriters through condescending use of regation throughout V's broadcast, such as "There is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there?"
THanks!
Hey! This may be a bit of a stretch, but could they possibly be talking about negation, and not regation? :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2633 on: August 03, 2017, 11:22:36 am »
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hi i was just wondering what the use of regatio was? It was from a module c essay i was looking at that said: 'In the McTeigue's film the oblivion of the populace to the crimes of Norsefire adn their loss of integriy is vigorously stressed by the scriptwriters through condescending use of regation throughout V's broadcast, such as "There is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there?"
THanks!

Hey! So regatio is actually a type of rhetorical question (specifically, a question immediately followed by an answer). But that isn't what that quote shows! So two possibilities to me: First, Chelsea could be right and they mean negation, but that isn't quite right to me either. I think perhaps the writer has confused regatio with interrogatio, which is a better fit in my opinion. Interrogatio is where a rhetorical question is used to re-enforce a point one makes (often in a very condescending way) ;D

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2634 on: August 04, 2017, 06:46:59 am »
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Hello
quick question...what would be the best technique to refer to when there is a repetitive use of 'ing' at the end of each word?
"they're bringing them home, they're picking them up...and bringing them home, they're bringing them in".....it's from the poem 'homecoming' by Bruce Dawe.

also, later in the poem it says "raise muzzles in mute salute"....any ideas which technique i should use here?

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2635 on: August 04, 2017, 10:30:33 am »
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Hello
quick question...what would be the best technique to refer to when there is a repetitive use of 'ing' at the end of each word?
"they're bringing them home, they're picking them up...and bringing them home, they're bringing them in".....it's from the poem 'homecoming' by Bruce Dawe.

also, later in the poem it says "raise muzzles in mute salute"....any ideas which technique i should use here?

Thanks!

I suppose the 'ing' is a repetition of a suffix, but it also implies irony, as these verbs usually infer life an vitality, whereas the handlers are moving dead, cold bodies.
The 'raise the muzzle in mute salute' could be allusion to the famous 21 Gun Salute, but also mocks the salute, as these men have rendered a service to their country but when coming home, the only salute they are given is from thier dogs, which further emphasises the dehumanisation of war.
Hope this is enough  :)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2636 on: August 04, 2017, 11:05:17 am »
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I suppose the 'ing' is a repetition of a suffix, but it also implies irony, as these verbs usually infer life an vitality, whereas the handlers are moving dead, cold bodies.
The 'raise the muzzle in mute salute' could be allusion to the famous 21 Gun Salute, but also mocks the salute, as these men have rendered a service to their country but when coming home, the only salute they are given is from thier dogs, which further emphasises the dehumanisation of war.
Hope this is enough  :)

awesome thanks heaps!! i also used imagery and sibilance for the muzzle quote...with a later reference to the 21 gun salute
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2637 on: August 04, 2017, 07:04:27 pm »
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Hey,
How would you convert an extended response for discovery which is in essay form to another form? eg. letter, interview etc.

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2638 on: August 04, 2017, 08:40:27 pm »
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Hey,
How would you convert an extended response for discovery which is in essay form to another form? eg. letter, interview etc.

Thanks.

Yikes! Interesting question - I've never thought about it before. I suppose turning it into a speech is easiest - is this an option?
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2639 on: August 04, 2017, 09:38:28 pm »
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Yikes! Interesting question - I've never thought about it before. I suppose turning it into a speech is easiest - is this an option?

This is from our notification:
"The question may be an essay or it may be a text type such as a speech, a letter, an interview, review or feature article."
I know its probably unlikely to occur in my trials but has it happened before?

So any clue in how this could be done? Is it just a simple as re-formating a few things from the original essay?