English Advanced Question Thread

[maria1999]

Hi I was wondering if I could get some advice on how to quickly identify a tone and voice that is presented in a text. It takes me a long time (time I don't really have) to identify a appropriate tone and voice under exam conditions. Are there key things I should look for? I was also wondering what would be the best way to explain how a voice is constructed? When I write I seem to babble on and on. Is there a way to be succinct and to the point when explaining how a voice is constructed?

hey!
Please take everything I say with a grain of salt haha. For me, an ironic or a satirical tone is always really easy to pick up in a poem. Is the voice speaking about something dark in a lightheared or funny way or just using heaps of irony? I think romantic tone could be another one which can be picked up from vibrant or sensory imagery? A way that I would pick up tone is to read what the poem or the text is actually saying and why they are saying it. Then you can kind of figure out HOW they are saying it i.e the tone. I hope that made sense and helped kinda!

[Mathew587]

Does anyone know if its possible to get high marks i.e. b6 range, 17/20 for module essays if you haven't finished them? A couple of kids from my school got 17/20 for mod b with two and a half pages on analsysis + a friend of mine did well in the hsc even after not completitng two essays

[jamonwindeyer]

Hey Guys,

Any tips on how to prepare for Module B if I am doing Yeats.
Is it best to have some answers prepared for each poem?
Thanks.

You'll probably want to prepare something for each poem, in case they specify! Focus on memorising your quotes/techniques first, then just get practicing - Practice makes perfect

[jamonwindeyer]

Does anyone know if its possible to get high marks i.e. b6 range, 17/20 for module essays if you haven't finished them? A couple of kids from my school got 17/20 for mod b with two and a half pages on analsysis + a friend of mine did well in the hsc even after not completitng two essays

It probably would be if they were really good! Ultimately if you can show the strength of your argument in two-thirds of an essay, you'd only really lose marks on structure for not bringing everything together! You wouldn't be able to do perfectly but you could probably still do quite well - But you are shooting yourself in the foot, always better to wrap up an essay rather than leave it open

[Sukakadonkadonk]

You'll probably want to prepare something for each poem, in case they specify! Focus on memorising your quotes/techniques first, then just get practicing - Practice makes perfect

If they specify (which they most likely will)
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BTW, what do you mean by preparing something?

[jamonwindeyer]

If they specify (which they most likely will)
😭😭😭

BTW, what do you mean by preparing something?

Meaning, just be prepared to discuss any poem - This might only be a couple of quotes at bare minimum, though ideally you'd prepare well enough that you could easily sustain an essay on any question they throw you

[Sukakadonkadonk]

Meaning, just be prepared to discuss any poem - This might only be a couple of quotes at bare minimum, though ideally you'd prepare well enough that you could easily sustain an essay on any question they throw you

Okie, got it thanks.

[Mathew587]

It probably would be if they were really good! Ultimately if you can show the strength of your argument in two-thirds of an essay, you'd only really lose marks on structure for not bringing everything together! You wouldn't be able to do perfectly but you could probably still do quite well - But you are shooting yourself in the foot, always better to wrap up an essay rather than leave it open

oh right ok
but
wouldn't that mean its better to spend 40 mins writing two and a 1/2 pages instead of a 5 page essay? as long as those two paragraph are your strongest points with strong analysis, that means i could get 17ish and focus on the whatever I'm more sure of?

[caitlinlddouglas]

hey i was just watching the essay video and i was wondering how i would structure my paragraphs for a discovrey essay when i'm doing 2 poems adn a related text (i'm doing frost)? I feel like i won't be able to cover the process of discovery in each or that the only way i could do so would be to write about all 3 texts in one paragraph which would make it waaaayyyy too large. Thanks!

[theblackswan]

Hi guys! In regards to creative writing, I was wondering what are your opinions on stories that span across time? Like little snippets of scenes each taking place on the consequent day. Are they too difficult to write? Thanks!

[Thebarman]

I totally wasn't MIA for over a month and am only now reappearing. Nope, no way

If we're asked to include two related texts in an essay (say, the discovery essay), how would we incorporate both?

[bsdfjnlkasn]

I totally wasn't MIA for over a month and am only now reappearing. Nope, no way

If we're asked to include two related texts in an essay (say, the discovery essay), how would we incorporate both?

Hey there!

I think the best way to do this is with a four paragraph structure

Intro
Para 1: Prescribed and idea 1
Para 2: First related
Para 3: Prescribed and idea 2
Para 4: Second related
Conclusion

This way, you're not compromising your analysis by including too many texts at once, and making sure that you're doing the most with your prescribed and dealing with the related texts equally. 

Hopefully this helped!

[jamonwindeyer]

oh right ok
but
wouldn't that mean its better to spend 40 mins writing two and a 1/2 pages instead of a 5 page essay? as long as those two paragraph are your strongest points with strong analysis, that means i could get 17ish and focus on the whatever I'm more sure of?

Well I suppose so! If we're talking 5 pages of nonsense versus 2.5 pages of brilliance at least - It's always quality over quantity! But it's about balance. You ideally want to hit a sweet spot of an essay which is strong and well sustained!

Writing less than you feasibly could in 40 minutes is going to serve you well - It just doesn't make strategic sense. Write at a pace that allows you to write effectively, and get as much as you can down writing at that pace

[f_tan]

For anyone doing Yeats' poetry, is it best to know three poems well and prepare evidence for the other poems? How many pieces of evidence should I be preparing for each poem?

[Natasha.97]

For anyone doing Yeats' poetry, is it best to know three poems well and prepare evidence for the other poems? How many pieces of evidence should I be preparing for each poem?

Hey!

To answer the first part of your question, the 2016 Yeats question was really specific (had to make detailed reference to "Easter 1916") so it would probably be best to know all the poems