What is rank 1?

[Syndicate]

Hi guys,

I know I've finished VCE and I shouldn't worry about this anymore but I'm still kinda confused about this aspect

usually there will be 1 or 2 GAs which are your SAC marks.
and you are ranked within your cohort

lets say you have a large cohort of 100 people
is each person ranked between 1st and 100th?
or can there be equal rankings? like multiple people being ranked like, 10th or something?
because in that case I would assume many people would get similar-ish SAC marks and the total SAC marks could be similar
e.g. many people could get 80/100 for their GA1 and GA2 mark for example - so are the people who get the same GA mark all ranked on the same level?

also, I heard that it doesn't matter 'how much' you're ranked by. so if you're rank 1 by 1 mark or 50 marks it doesn't matter, as long as you're rank 1. I guess the same could be if you're ranked last - it doesn't matter if they submit your SAC GA mark/s as 0/100 or 40/100 for example, as long as you're behind everybody.

can someone please clarify?

idk if any of this makes sense
thanks for anyone who answers

Hey guys,

*sorry to jump in*

What does it mean being rank 1?
Are there any special advantages for being rank 1?


Thanks

Mod edit: Can we please not hijack topics after they've just been made? Either wait for the original question to be answered, or make a new topic, instead of diverting conversation immediately. Topic split. (DickensFan101)

[Swagadaktal]

Hey guys,

*sorry to jump in*

What does it mean being rank 1?
Are there any special advantages for being rank 1?


Thanks

Yes.
VCAA sends down an angel who comes down to your front door with a bunch of roses. They (being gender-neutral here) then proceed to enter your house and give you a good long hug whilst quietly but reassuringly whisper "we the best" in your ear.
They then leave the house, but before they exit they turn around, smile and give you a thumbs up.

[Swagadaktal]

Not sure why i pictured the angel to look like a person wearing a bunny costume.
In all seriousness, all you need to know is that rank 1 = highest sac marks in your grade and after VCAA moderates it within your school.
That being said, if you're in a strong cohort and you're rank 1 it doesnt mean you cant get 100% sac marks.
That's all I'd worry about tbh, I think this has been echoed all over the forums, you dont want to get into too much details and play the number game... We've all been there and tb'h its just not pretty or productive.

[Splash-Tackle-Flail]

Hey guys,

*sorry to jump in*

What does it mean being rank 1?
Are there any special advantages for being rank 1?


Thanks

Mod edit: Can we please not hijack topics after they've just been made? Either wait for the original question to be answered, or make a new topic, instead of diverting conversation immediately. Topic split. (DickensFan101)

(pasted from other thread)
It means you have the highest GA ranking.
It's advantage is that your SAC moderated mark isn't affected by other peoples' performance. This is especially relevant in a weaker cohort.

[qazser]

(pasted from other thread)
It means you have the highest GA ranking.
It's advantage is that your SAC moderated mark isn't affected by other peoples' performance. This is especially relevant in a weaker cohort.

Does this mean its more beneficial to go to a bad school, get R1 then ace the exams?

[keltingmeith]

Does this mean its more beneficial to go to a bad school, get R1 then ace the exams?

If you can guarantee that you'll get rank 1 and ace the exams, then sure. But that's a LOT easier said than done, considering you spend 1/4 of each of your week days at school. You honestly think that makes little impact?

[Splash-Tackle-Flail]

Does this mean its more beneficial to go to a bad school, get R1 then ace the exams?

Not in my opinion haha- while you're scenario is set for a good score, it's much easier said than done.

A "bad" school would be more of a struggle. Think teacher's who may have trouble themselves answering past Q3 in the workbook trouble.. It'll be harder to get to the stage of "acing the exams", as you won't really have many places to go to consolidate misunderstandings/get help with harder questions.

But sure, if getting the SAC prize is what you're after, then it'll imo be easier going to a weaker school.

Contrarily going to a strong school may not guarantee you the rank 1, but you'll be in the chance of a higher rank that still scales to full moderated SAC marks because of how beast the students there are. This also means if you snag a great ranking, you could bomb the exam and still get a decent SAC mark after scaling. In a lower school, you're sacs will scale right down if you and your classmates all underperform.

Of course the term "bad" school is very loosely defined..

Either way you only have to look at the statistics- a strong school has many more people who get the top scores, and that's for a reason.

Edit: ninja'd

[Syndicate]

Not in my opinion haha- while you're scenario is set for a good score, it's much easier said than done.

A "bad" school would be more of a struggle. Think teacher's who may have trouble themselves answering past Q3 in the workbook trouble.. It'll be harder to get to the stage of "acing the exams", as you won't really have many places to go to consolidate misunderstandings/get help with harder questions.

But sure, if getting the SAC prize is what you're after, then it'll imo be easier going to a weaker school.

Contrarily going to a strong school may not guarantee you the rank 1, but you'll be in the chance of a higher rank that still scales to full moderated SAC marks because of how beast the students there are. This also means if you snag a great ranking, you could bomb the exam and still get a decent SAC mark after scaling. In a lower school, you're sacs will scale right down if you and your classmates all underperform.

Of course the term "bad" school is very loosely defined..

Either way you only have to look at the statistics- a strong school has many more people who get the top scores, and that's for a reason.

Edit: ninja'd

So even though my cohort performs badly, it won't affect me if I am rank 1-3 ?

[Swagadaktal]

So even though my cohort performs badly, it won't affect me if I am rank 1-3 ?

depends which cohort...
For further i was rank 3-4  and my sacs scaled to 100%.
there was someone who was atleast 2 ranks below me (maybe 1 actually) who got a 50, so their sacs scaled to 100%

[Syndicate]

depends which cohort...
For further i was rank 3-4  and my sacs scaled to 100%.
there was someone who was atleast 2 ranks below me (maybe 1 actually) who got a 50, so their sacs scaled to 100%

did you have a strong Further cohort?

[Swagadaktal]

did you have a strong Further cohort?

yea mayne

[tashhhaaa]

can someone explain this?
I was rank 1 for English (at least, that's what all the teachers had told me, and I know I was for sure in Unit 3)

My Unit 3 SACs scaled down from 95/100 to 93/100, and my Unit 4 SACs scaled from 90/100 to 100/100... so ultimately, I gained marks, but I'm still confused about the whole thing...

I got an A+ on the exam, but I didn't get the highest SS at my school (which was one point higher than mine)

Similarly, rank 3 I believe got the highest HHD score while rank 1 and 2 (me and someone else) got below 40 LOL
what happened? o.O

I don't care about it but I'm genuinely curious and I still don't get moderation

were the lower ranked people's SACs scaled up or something?

[keltingmeith]

The people that beat you would've absolutely smashed the exam and scored higher than you to get higher study scores. However, since you were rank 1, that would've also pulled you up a bit! So, you should thank them a bit.