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Re: PAPER ONE EXAM DISCUSSION!
« Reply #90 on: October 13, 2016, 07:41:57 pm »
does it matter if you didn't/did address the image you used? Because I did, but it didn't say to - i feel like they wanted it to come through in your story without stating it so they could gauge how skilfully you actually utilised the stimulus in your writing.
meh probably doesn't matter.

Definitely doesn't matter, as long as it was clear which you were using, you're golden! There's not specific way you need to address it.
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Re: PAPER ONE EXAM DISCUSSION!
« Reply #91 on: October 13, 2016, 07:43:33 pm »
does it matter if you didn't/did address the image you used? Because I did, but it didn't say to - i feel like they wanted it to come through in your story without stating it so they could gauge how skilfully you actually utilised the stimulus in your writing.
meh probably doesn't matter.

Markers love it when you metaphorically use the stimulus in your creative. According to the 2015 HSC English Notes From The Marking Centre, it states that candidates need to improve on: and one point is "moving beyond the literal meaning of the stimulus." E.g. For that lonely guy with the umbrella with the storm above him, better responses would incorporate "loneliness" in their creative writing piece. Weaker responses would incorporate something like "And I sat down, alone. Holding an umbrella, getting ready for the storm". See the difference?

EDIT: I agree with Jake. It doesn't matter. But to answer your question, Metaphorically > Literally.
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Re: PAPER ONE EXAM DISCUSSION!
« Reply #92 on: October 14, 2016, 03:58:13 pm »
am i going to loose a whole lot of marks if i didn't use one of the creative stimuli as a key location??  >:(  :-\
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Re: PAPER ONE EXAM DISCUSSION!
« Reply #93 on: October 14, 2016, 04:35:36 pm »
AoS creative writing section was tough imo. Just my stroke of luck that the narrative I prepared lended itself really nicely to the question. The stimuli did stump my frazzled brain quite a bit, but I tried my best to incorporate the rural desert image without it seeming contrived. It contrasted with the surburban hell I wrote about as one of my settings.
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Re: PAPER ONE EXAM DISCUSSION!
« Reply #94 on: October 14, 2016, 06:29:37 pm »
For text 2, the contrast that I talked about was alive (whale) vs inanimate (boat) represented by the skeleton, ultimately triggering the child's discovery about the structure of the world or the universe or something, - that everything "no matter how big or small" started out as a skeleton or from a basic structure (forgot what I said exactly)...
Would this make sense?

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Re: PAPER ONE EXAM DISCUSSION!
« Reply #95 on: October 15, 2016, 01:04:50 am »
Markers love it when you metaphorically use the stimulus in your creative. According to the 2015 HSC English Notes From The Marking Centre, it states that candidates need to improve on: and one point is "moving beyond the literal meaning of the stimulus." E.g. For that lonely guy with the umbrella with the storm above him, better responses would incorporate "loneliness" in their creative writing piece. Weaker responses would incorporate something like "And I sat down, alone. Holding an umbrella, getting ready for the storm". See the difference?

EDIT: I agree with Jake. It doesn't matter. But to answer your question, Metaphorically > Literally.
You can talk about interpreting it metaphorically, and I completely agree with that. But the actual question didn't allow this, they themselves limited what one could do as  they explictly stated " USE IT AS THE EXACT LOCATION IN YOUR CREATIVE". I'm not sure of the exact wording, but I'm sure they used exact.

I think thats a clear indicator that they didn't want a metaphoric interpretation of it this time around (which is foolish and I think they may've just messed up their wording, considering the first picture is extremely hard to incorporate using the EXACT setting if you look at it carefully).

If they did, they are fking stupid for using that language in relation to the quesiton, rather than stating 'incorporate the stimulus as a central focus of your creative' which is more like the usual and allows metaphoric interpretation.

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Re: PAPER ONE EXAM DISCUSSION!
« Reply #96 on: October 15, 2016, 02:33:07 am »
On the Creative section, I think the talking point here (as we are talking about) is the language used:

Use ONE of the items as a key location in your writing.

And I think that Elyse did the best job explaining it:

What does it mean by key location? Key location doesn’t necessarily mean that your entire imaginative piece needs to be set in the location of the stimulus. Rather, the location can be used very briefly, yet significantly. You have flexibility here. The key location could be a feature in a flash back (or flash forward), it could be the setting for your entire discovery to unfold, or it could be the location that gave rise to discovery in the first place.

So I think this lies somewhere in the middle of, "You must use it in this exact way," and, "You can interpret this however." Not outside the realms of reasonable, in my opinion at least. Different, but pretty in line with where they seemed to be heading with the questions this year :)

A flat metaphoric interpretation, with no inclusion of the location in the actual setting of your story, wouldn't work very well to meet the demands. That said, an introspective piece where the setting materialised in the imagination of the persona? Not a real setting, but it would work, because it was there and it was key. As Elyse said, flexibility did exist (albeit in a more restricted/specific way) :)

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Re: PAPER ONE EXAM DISCUSSION!
« Reply #97 on: October 15, 2016, 02:34:27 am »
am i going to loose a whole lot of marks if i didn't use one of the creative stimuli as a key location??  >:(  :-\

Hey Nicki! No point sugarcoating; yeah, the marking criteria states that as a requirement. That said, if you wrote a kick-butt creative that was really effective and showed the aspects of Discovery required, then the effects won't matter too much! It's just one aspect of what they are looking for :)

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Re: PAPER ONE EXAM DISCUSSION!
« Reply #98 on: October 15, 2016, 02:35:01 am »
For text 2, the contrast that I talked about was alive (whale) vs inanimate (boat) represented by the skeleton, ultimately triggering the child's discovery about the structure of the world or the universe or something, - that everything "no matter how big or small" started out as a skeleton or from a basic structure (forgot what I said exactly)...
Would this make sense?

In rough form yeah I think this works Hua! :)

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« Reply #99 on: October 15, 2016, 06:10:55 pm »
Just a word to any future students.....
I had someone tell me it was a good idea to go 50-40-30 with the time for each section, being in order of the essay, then the unseen texts, then creative....
Don't do this. Allow 40 mins for each section, and don;t underestimate the unseen texts.
I went overtime on them by a couple of minutes, and consequently couldn;t finish my essay....I wrote approximately 1 sentence.... :o :( ??? :P :-[

I actually didn't mind the exam, but don't know how well I went.... :-\

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Re: PAPER ONE EXAM DISCUSSION!
« Reply #100 on: October 15, 2016, 06:33:03 pm »
For the essay question, would you be marked down for disputing the 'intellectual discovery?' Like can you make a statement that intellectual discovery is not featured in your texts because I freaked out and didn't stop to think, so I said intellectual discovery wasn't in mine, but emotional played a big part.
 

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Re: PAPER ONE EXAM DISCUSSION!
« Reply #101 on: October 16, 2016, 10:16:11 am »
Just a word to any future students.....
I had someone tell me it was a good idea to go 50-40-30 with the time for each section, being in order of the essay, then the unseen texts, then creative....
Don't do this. Allow 40 mins for each section, and don;t underestimate the unseen texts.
I went overtime on them by a couple of minutes, and consequently couldn;t finish my essay....I wrote approximately 1 sentence.... :o :( ??? :P :-[

I actually didn't mind the exam, but don't know how well I went.... :-\

I think it's a matter of reading the exam and knowing what will personally work well for you. Those time limits sound like exactly what I did, and they worked well for me. Sometimes I'd take more time to do unseen; if I had gotten the paper you guys did the other day, I definitely would have done that. There can't be a hard and fast rule because every exam and every student is a little different :)

I bet you smashed the sections you got done! Good work :)

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Re: PAPER ONE EXAM DISCUSSION!
« Reply #102 on: October 16, 2016, 10:22:32 am »
For the essay question, would you be marked down for disputing the 'intellectual discovery?' Like can you make a statement that intellectual discovery is not featured in your texts because I freaked out and didn't stop to think, so I said intellectual discovery wasn't in mine, but emotional played a big part.

If you addressed it and said, "Yeah, this doesn't work for my text," and you did that well, then there will be no issues! ;D

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« Reply #103 on: October 16, 2016, 10:31:45 am »
Does anyone else do Frank Hurley as their core text? I felt as though the essay q was slightly more difficult for our text (or slightly more difficult because my practice essay question was on transformative impacts...) compared with others (so I've heard)

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Re: PAPER ONE EXAM DISCUSSION!
« Reply #104 on: October 16, 2016, 10:40:05 am »
its hard when they have to formulate one question for 15 texts. random, but i was just thinking this