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Log graphs
« on: September 27, 2009, 01:45:39 pm »
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Are we supposed to know how to sketch log graphs with base x or between zero and 1?
In derrick ha's notes it asks to sketch a graph with base 0.5, I haven't seen that in any textbook!

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Re: Log graphs
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2009, 02:12:25 pm »
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You can convert it to base e via

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Re: Log graphs
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2009, 02:18:55 pm »
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True. But wouldn't that just make if more complicated to graph?

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Re: Log graphs
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2009, 02:23:27 pm »
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Can you post the question?

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Re: Log graphs
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2009, 02:28:18 pm »
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sketch y = log0.5(|2x - 2|) *base 0.5

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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2009, 02:33:10 pm »
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sketch y = log0.5(|2x - 2|) *base 0.5
Sketch without the aid of a calculator
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Re: Log graphs
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2009, 02:35:57 pm »
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And no more base 0.5 (if that is your main concern).
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Re: Log graphs
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2009, 02:37:34 pm »
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i just found one x intercept, x=1.5, drew that half then reflected it in the y axis because of the mod, is that right?

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Re: Log graphs
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2009, 02:46:56 pm »
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sketch y = log0.5(|2x - 2|) *base 0.5


x-intercept:
solve , so
solve , so

y-intercept: let


Asymptote:

and sketch from there.
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Re: Log graphs
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2009, 02:55:32 pm »
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And no more base 0.5 (if that is your main concern).

But would that method work if they base were, say, 2/5?

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Re: Log graphs
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2009, 03:28:59 pm »
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generalisation:









In fact you can also use dekoyl's change of base formula:



and set which implies , subbing this in gives:


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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2009, 04:06:41 pm »
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wow, thats some intense log stuff. we should know all of this right?
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Re: Log graphs
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2009, 04:59:44 pm »
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Are we supposed to know how to sketch log graphs with base x or between zero and 1?
In derrick ha's notes it asks to sketch a graph with base 0.5, I haven't seen that in any textbook!

With logs all you need to know what to do is to find say what:

log_2(5) = some value (I know this is required knowledge fo maths methods)

intuitively you know your answer should be between 2 & 3.


I'm not 100% sure if this is required, but last year we weren't examined on this.

If you were asked to graph log_2(x), pick common points:

x=1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128 that will give: 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 for the log_2(x)

if you pick a fraction base, the answer is just the negative of the log_reciprical of the log's original base
I.e. for log_0.5(x) = -log_2(x),

if x=...,1,2,4,8,16,... then log_0.5(x)=...,0,-1,-2,-3,-4,...

or log_2/3(x) = -log_3/2(x) (not that this is more useful)

but for log_1/a(x), this is useful if a is some positive integer like: 1,2,3 because you can graph these logs by just knowing that 2^2 = 4 or 3^3 = 27 and develop a trend.

*EDITED: This edit was to clear up any things that didn't make sense and some errors!

 
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Re: Log graphs
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2009, 06:47:59 pm »
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With logs all you need to know what to do is to find say what:
log_2(5) =
with this you know your answer should be between 2 & 3.
If you were asked to graph log_2(x), pick common points:
x=1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128 will give:0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7
if you pick a fraction base, the answer is just the negative of the log of it's denominator
I.e. log_0.5(x),
if x=...,1,2,4,8,16,... then log_0.5(x)=...,0,-1,-2,-3,-4,...

wait, what? come again. ima tad slow.
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Re: Log graphs
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2009, 06:48:48 pm »
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With logs all you need to know what to do is to find say what:
log_2(5) =
with this you know your answer should be between 2 & 3.
If you were asked to graph log_2(x), pick common points:
x=1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128 will give:0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7
if you pick a fraction base, the answer is just the negative of the log of it's denominator
I.e. log_0.5(x),
if x=...,1,2,4,8,16,... then log_0.5(x)=...,0,-1,-2,-3,-4,...

wait, what? come again. ima tad slow.
He is saying to just pick points and you should be able to intuitively "guess" the value of a log function.
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