VCE English Exam Discussion and Questions 2017

[zamwabos]

Oh shit 
After 4+ hours after the English exam, I just realised I made a really huge mistake. I forgot to analyse the picture in section c am I stuffed? Will I lose many marks?

I'm so angry at myself.

Did you not analyse the image or the logo? if you did neither, its looking grim... My teacher says you can't get more than 50% if you don't mention the images at all.

[literally lauren]

for the comparative essay me and my friend discussed it afterwards and it literally felt like we wrote the exact same essay!! should i be worried?? because we are in the same class, had the same tutor and we had the exact same paragraphs. im worried we also had the same evidence, like our essay wouldn't be word for word the same obviously but  we both chose a topic that we'd done together and were confident in. Im just worried about plagiarism? like does that count?

Not at all, don't stress! Those two essays will probably go to completely separate markers in separate corners of the state, so you have nothing to worry about! It's normal that a lot of students talk about similar key points/evidence anyway

I referred to the principal, as THE PRINCIPAL and WALKER, but i accidentally called Louise DENISE throughout the whole piece.... have I messed the whole thing up??

So long as they could kind of work out who you were talking about, you'd probably be okay (e.g. if you had a sentence like: 'In her comment, parent Denise argues that whilst "green ideas" are important, sometimes convenience must take priority...' then it's all sweet!

Forgot to mention the date that the article was released! It was in such small writing below the title 

Definitely nothing to worry about here, this is completely inessential! They probably won't even notice!

Oh shit 
After 4+ hours after the English exam, I just realised I made a really huge mistake. I forgot to analyse the picture in section c am I stuffed? Will I lose many marks?

I'm so angry at myself.

Not mentioning the visual at all does limit you a little bit, but it's not catastrophic. If your analysis of the written material was decent, you can still get a mid range score (6-7/10), and your other essays will be marked independently, so they won't be impacted at all

[SMOKIE]

did we have to analyse the logo for LA?

[akiophy]

I totally forgot to mention the logo. Does that hugely affect my mark even though I analyse the other image? 

[drepwns]

Were we supposed to contrast the approaches of the comment and the article? I only suggested that Louise responded to Walker's remarks - but didn't actually compare techniques adopted. I did everything else though. 

[lilyrosee]

Were we supposed to contrast the approaches of the comment and the article? I only suggested that Louise responded to Walker's remarks - but didn't actually compare techniques adopted. I did everything else though. 

Nope you will be fine. There is no need to compare the two pieces

Gd topics...for Ransom and Invictus!
I did the first one about revenge and forgiveness....found it alright!!
But i jst realised i totally stuff section c up....totally forgot to mention arguments and contention but simply stated how
persuasive techniques were effective :'(Sooooooo dumb!!!! hopefully the rest makes up 4 it!!!
But at least English is finished for ever!!!

I did the same topic for Ransom and Invictus! What did you write about?

[literally lauren]

did we have to analyse the logo for LA?

I totally forgot to mention the logo. Does that hugely affect my mark even though I analyse the other image? 

Nah, though you could have made something of the comparison between the lovely natural tree in the logo in contrast to the hideous man-made trash heap in the photo. But it's waaay more important to analyse the actual photo; the logo is just a little extra opportunity that you could take or leave

You also didn't need to say anything about the newsletter format or the toolbar at the top of the page. Again, you maybe could have said that the digital distribution fits the 'no waste' sentiment of the main piece, but that's completely optional.

You're marked on what you do cover, not on what you don't! In other words, the fact that you missed out on a persuasive technique or an analysis opportunity along the way won't impact you at all if the rest of your analysis is solid

[literally lauren]

Were we supposed to contrast the approaches of the comment and the article? I only suggested that Louise responded to Walker's remarks - but didn't actually compare techniques adopted. I did everything else though. 

Yep, comparison isn't at all essential (in fact, it's better that you focus on analysis than go back and forth like 'Denise was logical whereas Louise was emotional'). Analysis is worth marks, comparison isn't! So using points of similarity/difference as a way of transitioning is all you need (e.g. 'In contrast, Louise instead contends that...')

[creatureofhaze]

for the comparative, some teachers at my school had suggested writing two paragraphs instead of the traditional 3 as it allows for the better development of ideas and themes. has anyone else been told this? i didnt trust my teachers it'd get me a top notch score but I did it anyway fucc

i did invictus/ransom (1st prompt) and basically whipped out 2 paragraphs, approx a page each - one on the futility of revenge and another all on the themes based on forgiveness, defiance of expectations/progression of societies. although the depth is there + width, so analysis of lots of diff chars, will I get a crappy score because I wrote a really generic essay? feel like i didnt get to properly dissect the topic due to time pressures 

[angela666]

Hey!! I know this sounds dumb, but I said the principal published a "weekly message" instead of a newsletter in the introduction, because that's what was said in the background information. Would this matter?? 

[rootsarestronganddeep]

HI SOMEONE PLEASE HELP
I didn't even analyse Louise's article because I had run out of time! I mentioned her tone in the introduction and stated her stance in the introduction though. I spent a majority of my time writing on Denise, like 4-5 pages, and time just told me to suck it. Considering I was confident in all of my others essays, would I still be able to get an A+ score? Cheers.

[Lethal Sauce]

Given the nature of the exam, do they take into account the pressure and mark slightly more leniently? As in, would a less well-expressed script that would ordinarily score 7/10 on a SAC be marked with this pressure in mind such that it may be higher than that?

Cheers.

[Triple choc fudge]

I did the same topic for Ransom and Invictus! What did you write about?
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ummm i did mandela/priam n how they were able to forgive their past in order to be better fathers to their nations...
Achilles/Mandelas security team n how they sought revenge but realized that it was futile and that forgiveness was able to liberate them from their past.
Hecuba/Brenda and how their is often opposition to forgiveness etc
Somax/Francois and how they lead by example the need to forgive, and showed others how forgiveness was needed and that revenge was useless!!
thats in short!!

What did you write about??

[accoleg]

Absolutely gutted after the comparative question for Year of Wonders and The Crucible. Chose the first topic and did two solid body paras that took up 3 pages, then started my third with five mins left to go. I got through describing YOW and only got one sentence into TC, any thoughts as to marks? Hoping for an 8!!

[Triple choc fudge]

Hey!! I know this sounds dumb, but I said the principal published a "weekly message" instead of a newsletter in the introduction, because that's what was said in the background information. Would this matter?? 

No because that what it said in the background information!! Just as long as you stated what it was, which you did, you will be fine!!!