Why does everyone care about VCE so much?

[QuantumJG]

It annoys me as well, why is it that Med is the only course that is looked at with admiration?

Why do some people consider Commerce/Engineering a second rate/or often third rate kind of degree?

Take me - I want to do Commerce. However, I often find people telling me, 'oh you work so hard, you're going to do so well and you could do so much better than that' -

If it's in terms of the pay; people in Commerce do earn quite high salaries. The Maths needed for Actuarial Studies cannot be underestimated. I don't understand why some people look down on Commerce and other degrees such as Engineering/Arts. In the end, it's the individual's interest as to what he/she wants to do.

Tell them that actuaries start on 95k and have something like 7k added to their salary per year of experience. For those of you who want sources, look up the actuarial studies brochure for BComm.

[NE2000]

Siff delete all your posts, now the whole argument appears so random.

Perhaps you're getting mixed up with 'looking down' vs. 'not looking up'. I don't know many people who look down upon commerce or engineering.

Perhaps not engineering, but I know people who look down on commerce and arts (I know a lot of very stuck up people, most of whom do law... coincidence? -_-)
Arts because there is this (erroneous) conception that arts subjects are easy and all arts students are therefore slackers. I'm not sure why commerce though.

haha, yeah I know some people with a bit of an elitist attitude, and arts comes in for a bit of flak (this could also be due to these people's inclination towards science) but not so for commerce.

[NE2000]

No one likes working. Pay is the motivation to work.

EDIT: sorry I was trying to quote this post and accidentally edited it and deleted my comments  . uh yeah the general gist was you should aim to enjoy what you are working in.

[Gloamglozer]

That's why it should be your aim to try and enter a field that you enjoy.

As Confucius once said:

"Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life."

[vexx]

ken. i think you should really stop thinking that everything you are believe is correct.
everyone is different.
do not much such unfounded generalizations.

sheesshhh

no one likes working?!
there are so many people who love there jobs!!

[Edmund]

Then why do they want to do it then?

beleive it or not, some people actually choose a job they are interested in!

Some - a extreme small proportion.
Btw -  it is great that you realise its a stressful job. Many do not realise that until they step in. Most think its easy money.

Anyone who is going to succeed and be happy must work a job which they are interested in. Sure you can succeed for a few years in a high paying job just for the money, but is that the way you want to live? Think of the subject you liked the least. Now think of donig that subject for 40-70 hours a week. Is that the way you want to live?? Anyone who has the foresight to consider such things will choose a field in which they have interest.

No one likes working. Pay is the motivation to work.

Who says no one likes working? People are motivated to stay in their jobs through job satisfaction. Pay is one of the many factors that add to this extrinsic reward. Just like people research not for the money, but to expand and develop their interest on a particular field.

[xXNovaxX]

Then why do they want to do it then?

beleive it or not, some people actually choose a job they are interested in!

Some - a extreme small proportion.
Btw -  it is great that you realise its a stressful job. Many do not realise that until they step in. Most think its easy money.

Anyone who is going to succeed and be happy must work a job which they are interested in. Sure you can succeed for a few years in a high paying job just for the money, but is that the way you want to live? Think of the subject you liked the least. Now think of donig that subject for 40-70 hours a week. Is that the way you want to live?? Anyone who has the foresight to consider such things will choose a field in which they have interest.

No one likes working. Pay is the motivation to work.

WHAT?! I am doing a degree and i am not at ALL motivated by the money.

Laugh at me all u like, but im going to have my chosen career because it interested me form a child/teenager....i dont even know how much they get paid....so how can I be motivated by pay?

THEORETICALLY pay does motivate people to work, but when I did work experience for 2 weeks i got paid a lousy $5 a DAY from 9-5 doing the same field as I plan to work in, and it was one of the most enjoyable experiences I had.

I had a job in retail, got paid HEAPS in comparison to workers at hungry jacks, maccas etc, yet I quit....pay didnt motivate me at all to work.

Choosing  a career based on pay just limits ur options.

I am currently unemployed, and can EASILY go back to the former job I had which paid well, but I am not.

Teachers used to get paid like crap, yet they still WORKED, Why? Because they ENJOYED IT, u think any human would want to educate a group of loud, noisy, kids? Nope, only those passionate to do it, regardless of pay

[enwiabe]

This thread has been restored, kenhung please do not delete it again or I will remove your deletion privileges.

[Collin Li]

Extra money becomes nearly useless after you get a lot of it.

Lots of people earn so much money and realise there's nothing to show for it. So they buy a new shiny car, a few penthouses, and a new wife even... and they're still unfulfilled.

I recommend reading The 4-Hour Workweek, by Timothy Ferriss. It's not about making a lot of money, it's about making time and money, and making a lot of satisfaction for yourself.

[ninwa]

So they buy ... a new wife

LOL

WHAT?! I am doing a degree and i am not at ALL motivated by the money.

WTF I thought you were doing VCE:

I don't need an ENTER in the 90's, I have the option of going to TAFE, yet I am studying, well STUDIED really hard
...
I just want the BARE MINIMUM to get into my course

I'm doing law to help my job prospects, does that count as motivated by money? I don't want to be a big-time barrister though (that's where all the money is), I want to be a lecturer, translator or musician... *prepares cardboard box*

[crappy]

I think he means the degree he's doing next year lol

[vexx]

and also, people (like ninwa if she becomes a musician) who their JOBS are musicians/actors/ect---> most of the arty jobs are all chosen for their PASSION in that area.
most poeple who are playing music, making art and so on as a career, they enjoy working:)
they do not hate working and just want money .__.

[kenhung123]

and also, people (like ninwa if she becomes a musician) who their JOBS are musicians/actors/ect---> most of the arty jobs are all chosen for their PASSION in that area.
most poeple who are playing music, making art and so on as a career, they enjoy working:)
they do not hate working and just want money .__.

I don't consider that working.

[xXNovaxX]

So they buy ... a new wife

LOL

WHAT?! I am doing a degree and i am not at ALL motivated by the money.

WTF I thought you were doing VCE:

I don't need an ENTER in the 90's, I have the option of going to TAFE, yet I am studying, well STUDIED really hard
...
I just want the BARE MINIMUM to get into my course

omg, I just read what I wrote. I have absolutely no idea why I phrased it like that.

I meant, the degree I PLAN to do. Sorry for any confusion caused.

LOL, nah what you plan to do Ninwa is smart I get ur reasoning behind it, wise move.

[samuch]

and also, people (like ninwa if she becomes a musician) who their JOBS are musicians/actors/ect---> most of the arty jobs are all chosen for their PASSION in that area.
most poeple who are playing music, making art and so on as a career, they enjoy working:)
they do not hate working and just want money .__.

I don't consider that working.

so you admit that when someone enjoys themselves, its not considered work.
i reckon money can be a motivator but unless you enjoy the field you have chosen, you will not pursue it for long