music outside of school during yr12

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is there actually a difference between memorising and playing with the music there but not looking at it?
in my opinion, there should be some slight difference, but i think its safer to play with the music despite having it memorised in case you forget

[appianway]

@AzureBlue, that FMus guy was pretty amazing. I don't know if the piece he chose was all that popular though - it was very modern!

I think FMus is VERY different from AMus/LMus. It's more about a commitment to music than just another diploma. That trumpet guy looked much older than most of the people there.

[the.watchman]

I've been considering it... I don't know if so few people have it because nobody dares to try, or because it's actually hard. Apparently the last F.Mus was like, 5 years ago, and "it was just some stupid horn player or something, pffft" - my (elitist) teacher
It's just an 80 minute recital (http://www.ameb.edu.au/client_images/678246.pdf) - no general knowledge or theory, thank god. But I have no idea how high the standard actually is, and nobody I know has done it so I can't ask... plus I bet it's really really expensive and my parents refuse to pay for "such a waste of time" (i.e. anything music-related) so it'll be coming out of my own pocket...

In my conferring ceremony (2009), there was a guy who got an FMus in Trumpet (Christopher Eury). He performed in the ceremony and could make all these awesome noises with it Yeah, I have no idea about trumpet playing at all!

On that note, I heard that this year's diploma conferring ceremony had three performers
If anyone went there, who/how were they?
I only know of the cellist...

is there actually a difference between memorising and playing with the music there but not looking at it?
in my opinion, there should be some slight difference, but i think its safer to play with the music despite having it memorised in case you forget

Honestly, for these diplomas, you will have played it enough to be able to play it without music.
Although it is 'safer' to play with the music in front of you, it gives you the temptation to look at it (not good! )
If you're worried about not being able to memorise it, then perform the pieces a few times, maybe MSV etc.

[ninwa]

In my conferring ceremony (2009), there was a guy who got an FMus in Trumpet (Christopher Eury). He performed in the ceremony and could make all these awesome noises with it Yeah, I have no idea about trumpet playing at all!

Yeah, to my teacher that would qualify as "some stupid horn player or something"

I remember seeing a piano performance of a piece by Gubaidulina (sp?) which involved taking the lid off the piano in order to pluck the strings / hold the strings to make a muted sound. It was the friggin coolest thing I've ever seen.

I don't know if the piece he chose was all that popular though - it was very modern!

I played at my ceremony, and they actually ask you to play something "show-offy". They didn't mention anything about musical so my piece was basically a bunch of scales with a glissando over most of the keyboard at the end...

[AzureBlue]

I played at my ceremony, and they actually ask you to play something "show-offy". They didn't mention anything about musical so my piece was basically a bunch of scales with a glissando over most of the keyboard at the end...

Well done - which year did you get your LMus in?
The performances are always so good, because they're normally from people with at least LMus with distinction

[AzureBlue]

@AzureBlue, that FMus guy was pretty amazing. I don't know if the piece he chose was all that popular though - it was very modern!
I think FMus is VERY different from AMus/LMus. It's more about a commitment to music than just another diploma. That trumpet guy looked much older than most of the people there.

Yeah, he was awesome... must've taken a lot of skill to play that. Yeah, it was rather modern (Solus - Stanley Friedman (1951-), 1. Introduction, II. Furtively, IV. Fanfare).

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is there actually a difference between memorising and playing with the music there but not looking at it?
in my opinion, there should be some slight difference, but i think its safer to play with the music despite having it memorised in case you forget

Honestly, for these diplomas, you will have played it enough to be able to play it without music.
Although it is 'safer' to play with the music in front of you, it gives you the temptation to look at it (not good! )
If you're worried about not being able to memorise it, then perform the pieces a few times, maybe MSV etc.

Hahah yeah, but for a piece, let's say in ternary form, sometimes when I tried playing my memory, I keep playing the wrong bridge passage and hencing repeating ABA instead of ABA1

[AzureBlue]

Memorisation's not much a problem for me - I memorised most of my AMus programme, apart from the movement that I had only started 3 weeks before the exam, and another piece in which I had a memory lapse in in an eisteddfod. Boy was that embarrassing!

[the.watchman]

is there actually a difference between memorising and playing with the music there but not looking at it?
in my opinion, there should be some slight difference, but i think its safer to play with the music despite having it memorised in case you forget

Honestly, for these diplomas, you will have played it enough to be able to play it without music.
Although it is 'safer' to play with the music in front of you, it gives you the temptation to look at it (not good! )
If you're worried about not being able to memorise it, then perform the pieces a few times, maybe MSV etc.

Hahah yeah, but for a piece, let's say in ternary form, sometimes when I tried playing my memory, I keep playing the wrong bridge passage and hencing repeating ABA instead of ABA1

In that case, maybe try to listen to more recordings of the piece, and take a look at it from the general knowledge point of view, then you may get more familiar with the piece.
Memorisation comes with practice though, my teacher always made me memorise my songs from about Grade 1, so I am used to it, up to the point where I can hear a symphony three times and have memorised it

[TrueTears]

is there actually a difference between memorising and playing with the music there but not looking at it?
in my opinion, there should be some slight difference, but i think its safer to play with the music despite having it memorised in case you forget

not that much difference if ur confident enough, i think u can delve deeper into the music if u memorise, where as if u have the music in front of u, u always have a tendency to look at it which loses the overall feeling of the piece.


although there has been funny occasions when famous pianists "stuff up" becoz they forgot some part, lol i remember ronald farren price playing Rachmaninoff piano concerto (or was it taich?) and he completely had a mind blank but he improvised his way outta it lol

[ninwa]

Well done - which year did you get your LMus in?
The performances are always so good, because they're normally from people with at least LMus with distinction

Thanks! I got mine in 2004. Not "always", I was so terrified I fumbled a lot of it. Thank god it was a contemporary piece and nobody could tell the difference anyway

Hahah yeah, but for a piece, let's say in ternary form, sometimes when I tried playing my memory, I keep playing the wrong bridge passage and hencing repeating ABA instead of ABA1

I've found listening to a recording on repeat helps a lot with memorisation
I think it just looks a lot better to play your program from memory - a lot more professional, and your recital flows a lot better when you don't have to pause in between to change music. Also, turning pages would stress me out

[the.watchman]

Hahah yeah, but for a piece, let's say in ternary form, sometimes when I tried playing my memory, I keep playing the wrong bridge passage and hencing repeating ABA instead of ABA1

I've found listening to a recording on repeat helps a lot with memorisation
I think it just looks a lot better to play your program from memory - a lot more professional, and your recital flows a lot better when you don't have to pause in between to change music. Also, turning pages would stress me out

I completely agree, I used to play my LMus pieces while eating breakfast, doing homework, and on the way to lessons.
Extremely helpful way to not only memorise the pieces, but also gain stylistic knowledge.

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is there actually a difference between memorising and playing with the music there but not looking at it?
in my opinion, there should be some slight difference, but i think its safer to play with the music despite having it memorised in case you forget

Honestly, for these diplomas, you will have played it enough to be able to play it without music.
Although it is 'safer' to play with the music in front of you, it gives you the temptation to look at it (not good! )
If you're worried about not being able to memorise it, then perform the pieces a few times, maybe MSV etc.

Hahah yeah, but for a piece, let's say in ternary form, sometimes when I tried playing my memory, I keep playing the wrong bridge passage and hencing repeating ABA instead of ABA1

In that case, maybe try to listen to more recordings of the piece, and take a look at it from the general knowledge point of view, then you may get more familiar with the piece.
Memorisation comes with practice though, my teacher always made me memorise my songs from about Grade 1, so I am used to it, up to the point where I can hear a symphony three times and have memorised it

Haha, but memorising a violin piece has its difficulties and ease too. Like, there's extra bowings to memorise - but this will naturally come to you if you practice enough. and obviously, a down bow will be on a down beat
but there's the ease too, like you only have a single melody line to memorise but for piano you have to memorise chords. sometimes i can, but it comes out in the wrong inversion

is there actually a difference between memorising and playing with the music there but not looking at it?
in my opinion, there should be some slight difference, but i think its safer to play with the music despite having it memorised in case you forget

not that much difference if ur confident enough, i think u can delve deeper into the music if u memorise, where as if u have the music in front of u, u always have a tendency to look at it which loses the overall feeling of the piece.


although there has been funny occasions when famous pianists "stuff up" becoz they forgot some part, lol i remember ronald farren price playing Rachmaninoff piano concerto (or was it taich?) and he completely had a mind blank but he improvised his way outta it lol

lol, that must be wayy embarrassing but you can't afford to make a slip in a dip exam xD
i'm sure i can improvise my way out, but the examiner would have the music with him right?

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Well done - which year did you get your LMus in?
The performances are always so good, because they're normally from people with at least LMus with distinction

Thanks! I got mine in 2004. Not "always", I was so terrified I fumbled a lot of it. Thank god it was a contemporary piece and nobody could tell the difference anyway

Hahah yeah, but for a piece, let's say in ternary form, sometimes when I tried playing my memory, I keep playing the wrong bridge passage and hencing repeating ABA instead of ABA1

I've found listening to a recording on repeat helps a lot with memorisation
I think it just looks a lot better to play your program from memory - a lot more professional, and your recital flows a lot better when you don't have to pause in between to change music. Also, turning pages would stress me out

hahaa yeah, sometimes if i can't turn the page, i'd turn it a few bars in advance or just memorise a little behind.
what's more annoying is the flip/woosh sound when you turn the page
and sometimes if i listen to the recording too many times, i get more sick of it haha! not to mention i wasn't sick of the piece to begin with.

[AzureBlue]

lol, that must be wayy embarrassing but you can't afford to make a slip in a dip exam xD
i'm sure i can improvise my way out, but the examiner would have the music with him right?

Lol I did something really stupid in my AMus - almost forgot to play the 3rd movement of my sonata (took the following piece out after playing the second movement). Thank God I realised not long after... was so sleepy that day on my exam. Luckily, I still managed a comfortable pass