Actuarial studies

[humph]

dammmmm still dunno if i wanna go anu or UoM. hear Anu awesome act stud degree, but Melbs just so much easier. Don't have to move out or anything. It's convnient, ect.

Yeah, I'm deciding between Melbourne, Macquarie and ANU. Same with me, I'm definitely most likely going to Melbourne, much easier, don't have to board (as nice as residential colleges are, ~$600 p/w is like about $30,000 a year, so you'll have to pay double the money to go to uni).

Waaaaaaa? Colleges at ANU are max $300 a week. I pay about $210
And yeah, there are some residential college scholarships, but they're few and far between. Generally they're just for people with low income families/independent students, but some are for particular subject areas.

[AzureBlue]

hmmmmm no idea. u feel like doing some reasearch azure? cos i ceebes

Went to a Melb Uni event - access all areas, and I toured St Mary's College, they're around $570/week.

[humph]

hmmmmm no idea. u feel like doing some reasearch azure? cos i ceebes

Went to a Melb Uni event - access all areas, and I toured St Mary's College, they're around $570/week.

UoM and USyd colleges are pretty much very old and very formal and in prime locations and hence ludicrously expensive. Everywhere else is much more affordable.

[AzureBlue]

hmmmmm no idea. u feel like doing some reasearch azure? cos i ceebes

Went to a Melb Uni event - access all areas, and I toured St Mary's College, they're around $570/week.

UoM and USyd colleges are pretty much very old and very formal and in prime locations and hence ludicrously expensive. Everywhere else is much more affordable.

Yeah, UoM colleges are sooooo good, I want to board even though it only takes me half an hour to get there. Even for just a week or two for fun Unfortunately, the minimum time you can board is a semester apparently though

[tram]

i know rite? they're crazy... and very expensive. But the experince would be awesome

[tram]

Anway, bringing the thread back to actuarial studies,

Can anyone comment on the difficulity of Acturial studies from experience?

And

Do you have to be good with computers, as in like programming and using all sorts of random, obscure programs to create models? Cos as far as computers go i'm pretty useless.

Thx:)

[AzureBlue]

Anway, bringing the thread back to actuarial studies,

Can anyone comment on the difficulity of Acturial studies from experience?

And

Do you have to be good with computers, as in like programming and using all sorts of random, obscure programs to create models? Cos as far as computers go i'm pretty useless.

Thx:)

I'm not sure, but I've heard that it's considerably hard, but just mainly with the maths. My cousin (at UoM) screwed the maths part so she had to switch to finance after her first year. Only like one of her friends from first year made it into third year apparently.
I hope the computer part isn't that important too - I was going to learn C++ but never got to it...

[Gloamglozer]

Anway, bringing the thread back to actuarial studies,

Can anyone comment on the difficulity of Acturial studies from experience?

And

Do you have to be good with computers, as in like programming and using all sorts of random, obscure programs to create models? Cos as far as computers go i'm pretty useless.

Thx:)

I'm not sure, but I've heard that it's considerably hard, but just mainly with the maths. My cousin (at UoM) screwed the maths part so she had to switch to finance after her first year. Only like one of her friends from first year made it into third year apparently.
I hope the computer part isn't that important too - I was going to learn C++ but never got to it...

Yes, maths at uni is pretty hard.  It's not like high school where the teacher would teach you something and in that calss you would work through problems.  At uni in addition to the very fast paced of subjects, the lecturer just goes through the notes and you have to do the work at home.  In the tutes, you just work on some other problems that your tutor gives you in groups most of the time.

Just think about it this way.  At UoM, there is a subject where you pretty much do the Spesh course in one semester.  Personally, I know three people who wanted to major in actuarial studies.  Two of them didn't get the marks needed in their maths subjects to continue on to second year and the third person who did go through to second year is starting to really struggle.

[AzureBlue]

Hmm ok it does sound rather difficult then so I think I'll just scrap my DipMSc or add a year for it after actuarial studies (if I make it!), because overloading/fast-tracking sounds like a bad idea. So do we have to be really good at computer stuff like C++ etc... to do actuarial studies too?

[Gloamglozer]

Hmm ok it does sound rather difficult then so I think I'll just scrap my DipMSc or add a year for it after actuarial studies (if I make it!), because overloading/fast-tracking sounds like a bad idea. So do we have to be really good at computer stuff like C++ etc... to do actuarial studies too?

Overloading isn't too bad if you are a capable university student.  My advice would be not to overload in your first semester of uni because you need the first semester of uni to adjust to uni life and work out what works for you.  Also, if you do overload in your first semester and you screw up, it will definitely not look good on your academic transcript, not to mention the chances of jeopardising your chances of successfully getting the marks required to go onto second year actuarial studies.

With the computer stuff, I would imagine you would need to have some computer knowledge because the maths that actuarial students do in second year will require them to have one hour computer laboratory class per week, which obviously means that you will be working with a computer.

[GerrySly]

Hmm ok it does sound rather difficult then so I think I'll just scrap my DipMSc or add a year for it after actuarial studies (if I make it!), because overloading/fast-tracking sounds like a bad idea. So do we have to be really good at computer stuff like C++ etc... to do actuarial studies too?

I doubt you'd have to know much about low level languages like C/C++, it'd just be proficiency with a computer (be able to learn programs quickly and maybe a high level language such as Python or Perl)

[Gloamglozer]

Hmm ok it does sound rather difficult then so I think I'll just scrap my DipMSc or add a year for it after actuarial studies (if I make it!), because overloading/fast-tracking sounds like a bad idea. So do we have to be really good at computer stuff like C++ etc... to do actuarial studies too?

I doubt you'd have to know much about low level languages like C/C++, it'd just be proficiency with a computer (be able to learn programs quickly and maybe a high level language such as Python or Perl)

C/C++ is mainly for design isn't it?

[AzureBlue]

Hmm ok it does sound rather difficult then so I think I'll just scrap my DipMSc or add a year for it after actuarial studies (if I make it!), because overloading/fast-tracking sounds like a bad idea. So do we have to be really good at computer stuff like C++ etc... to do actuarial studies too?

I doubt you'd have to know much about low level languages like C/C++, it'd just be proficiency with a computer (be able to learn programs quickly and maybe a high level language such as Python or Perl)

C/C++ is mainly for design isn't it?

Yeah, probably. I don't know. I haven't done much programming at all But if we need to use a program, we'll probably be taught it.

[tram]

Just think about it this way.  At UoM, there is a subject where you pretty much do the Spesh course in one semester.  Personally, I know three people who wanted to major in actuarial studies.  Two of them didn't get the marks needed in their maths subjects to continue on to second year and the third person who did go through to second year is starting to really struggle.

Damn, How good at maths were these people? Like adverage or pretty bright?

[mark_alec]

For actuarial studies you'd probably only need to learn MATLAB, R and Excel.