benzene

[tram]

functional group or not?

have gotten many people saying it is and many ppl saying it isn't. is there even a definite ans??

thx:)

[Studyinghard]

Double bond is a functional group. So I would say yes to functional group.

[kenhung123]

Benzene is a functional group? I think perhaps the double bond IN the benzene is a functional group

[tram]

Double bond is a functional group. So I would say yes to functional group.

"double bond" not double bond

this is where a lot of the confusion stems from....

[Blakhitman]

Benzene is a functional group, as are double bonds.

[physics]

yes to functional group

[akira88]

A benzene ring is NOT a functional group.
It is just the structure of a particular hydrocarbon.
Is ethane a function group? Or ethene?
No they are not. What you are asking is like asking those above questions.
Answer is also confirmed with my chemistry teacher

[vexx]

I was told by my uni chemistry teacher, and a vce chem lecturer that multiple bonds are a functional group and so is benzene. pretty sure i believe them and benzene should be anyway since the 'phenols' are characterised by their inclusion of the functional group 'benzene'

[akira88]

Yes benzene itself is NOT a functional group, but phenyl is the NAME of the functional group.
It's just like saying methane is a functional group- that is wrong, it is called a methyl functional group.

[Mao]

Benzene is not a functional group. Much like a methane or ethane are not functional groups.

Arene, aryl or phenyl are functional group, these are substituted benzene rings. Similarly, methyl and ethyl (or in general, alkyl) are functional groups.


+1 to akira88

[vexx]

yeah phenyl is pretty much benzene-R
i didn't mean benzene alone, but when it's attached to anything it's a functional group as 'phenyl'
and vcaa recognises this apparently, as if they say circle the functional groups, you'd be correct to circle benzene.
benzene as a functional group= C6H5-R

[m@tty]

yeah phenyl is pretty much benzene-R
i didn't mean benzene alone, but when it's attached to anything it's a functional group as 'phenyl'
and vcaa recognises this apparently, as if they say circle the functional groups, you'd be correct to circle benzene.
benzene as a functional group= C6H5-R

Then it's not benzene anymore...

[kenhung123]

Benzene is not a functional group. Much like a methane or ethane are not functional groups.

Arene, aryl or phenyl are functional group, these are substituted benzene rings. Similarly, methyl and ethyl (or in general, alkyl) are functional groups.


+1 to akira88

I love it when Mao clarifies things. Always the right answer

[vexx]

Benzene is not a functional group. Much like a methane or ethane are not functional groups.

Arene, aryl or phenyl are functional group, these are substituted benzene rings. Similarly, methyl and ethyl (or in general, alkyl) are functional groups.


+1 to akira88

I love it when Mao clarifies things. Always the right answer

i aspire to be like him:o
luckily i'm making these little makes on these forums and not examssssssss, thanks for corrections ><

[tram]

yeah phenyl is pretty much benzene-R
i didn't mean benzene alone, but when it's attached to anything it's a functional group as 'phenyl'
and vcaa recognises this apparently, as if they say circle the functional groups, you'd be correct to circle benzene.benzene as a functional group= C6H5-R

ok, i'm going with this and if get marks taken off i'm hunting you down vexx. I'm gonna wait afterschool on a tuesday and stop every single non-scotch person i see asking "hi, do you go on the forum vce notes under the name vexx?"