Methods 3+4 in Year 11?

[Souljette_93]

Why don't they allow you?

no idea, I think they believe that we will do better if we do it in yr 12. But I think some of us are ready.

As for why they don't allow us to to do unit 2 bio, psych or accounting, I have no idea.

Maybe because most Methods students would be doing spesh, and hence the better result?

only 1/3 of our yr12 cohort does spesh, whilst 90% of us do 3+4 methods

That's a downfall..

PROTEST!

[98.40_for_sure]

Haha my school is same, you gotta get on your knees if you wanna do any 3/4 in year 11. (only the easy ones that don't really need 1/2 are allowed like psych, bio, IT etc)

[eeps]

LOL my school is the complete opposite - it encourages students to do a 3/4 subject in Year 11 - to experience what VCE exams are like as opposed to normal, internal school exams. My school offers Methods 3/4 (though must have done Units 1/2 in Year 10), Bio 3/4, Accounting 3/4, Geo 3/4, International Studies 3/4 etc at the Year 11 level.

The only requirement you need to do a 3/4 subject in Year 11 (at my school) is to get better than a C+ in that particular area and maintain decent grades across all other subjects.

[pi]

LOL my school is the complete opposite - it encourages students to do a 3/4 subject in Year 11 - to experience what VCE exams are like as opposed to normal, internal school exams. My school offers Methods 3/4 (though must have done Units 1/2 in Year 10), Bio 3/4, Accounting 3/4, Geo 3/4, International Studies 3/4 etc at the Year 11 level.

The only requirement you need to do a 3/4 subject in Year 11 (at my school) is to get better than a C+ in that particular area and maintain decent grades across all other subjects.

damn MHS! they only let you do a 3+4 (bio, accounting or psych) if you average B+ or higher, or have special parental permission to do so

[Duck]

I would like to point out that all of these schools (admittedly a large assumption but I know at least 3 schools that fit this bill) which you're all complaining about are the top performing schools in the state. Clearly they know what they're doing

[pi]

I take the point, but they are probably top schools due to their selectivity. Anyway, MacRob allows Methods 3+4, but not MHS. Both are top schools and selective.

[eeps]

My guess is that even though students believe they're ready to do Methods 3/4 at Year 11 level, MHS would have seen many students in the past do Methods 3/4 (in Year 11) and they may not have done as well as they could have. Thus now, they don't allow students to do Methods 3/4 in Year 11 - preferring to let students do it in Year 12.

I take the point, but they are probably top schools due to their selectivity. Anyway, MacRob allows Methods 3+4, but not MHS. Both are top schools and selective.

True hence, all the threads about "HOW to study to get into MHS" etc. In any case, both MacRob and MHS are very good schools.

[HERculina]

I take the point, but they are probably top schools due to their selectivity. Anyway, MacRob allows Methods 3+4, but not MHS. Both are top schools and selective.

macrob only allows you to do 3/4 methods if you're in accelerated. and thats only around 75 students out of the 200 and something students there. so even at macrob theres people who wanna do methods 3/4 in yr 11 but cant.

anyways, i agree that its so unfair that some schools don't let you do methods in yr 11.  No wonder a lot of MHS students do Asain 5 plus bio since bio is one of the limited things you actually can do in yr 11.
my school for instance has an "advanced" maths class but its useless cause we're not really doing anything that's "advanced". might as well mix us in with the rest. and they call us the methods class as well so everyone assumes we're doing methods.

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[iNerd]

Why don't they allow you?

no idea, I think they believe that we will do better if we do it in yr 12. But I think some of us are ready.

As for why they don't allow us to to do unit 2 bio, psych or accounting, I have no idea.

As if you don't know? Us Y9s last year got a petition signed saying that we could choose our electives because we were FORCED to do TWO ART and TWO GENERAL....some wanted 4 art...some wanted 4 general.....End outcome: Prideaux stands up after singing assembly and "commends" our "effort" but nothing changed ...After that a group of ~7 of us met her at lunchtime and she's like you need to "broaden your horizons" and this is the "MHS culture" and blah blah...

[iNerd]

On the MM1/2  note:

Personally I think if the option was allowed then literally half if not three-quarters of the cohort would take it and Year 10 maths would become non-existent. Also there are not enough teachers to handle 3/4 of Year 10 and 7/8 of Year 11 doing Methods 1/2...

Either way I wouldn't have accelerated; more maths practice - less mistakes [ hopefully ]

[pi]

Why don't they allow you?

no idea, I think they believe that we will do better if we do it in yr 12. But I think some of us are ready.

As for why they don't allow us to to do unit 2 bio, psych or accounting, I have no idea.

As if you don't know? Us Y9s last year got a petition signed saying that we could choose our electives because we were FORCED to do TWO ART and TWO GENERAL....some wanted 4 art...some wanted 4 general.....End outcome: Prideaux stands up after singing assembly and "commends" our "effort" but nothing changed ...After that a group of ~7 of us met her at lunchtime and she's like you need to "broaden your horizons" and this is the "MHS culture" and blah blah...

lol, that has been done before. we took it to ludo instead though.

[iNerd]

Why don't they allow you?

no idea, I think they believe that we will do better if we do it in yr 12. But I think some of us are ready.

As for why they don't allow us to to do unit 2 bio, psych or accounting, I have no idea.

As if you don't know? Us Y9s last year got a petition signed saying that we could choose our electives because we were FORCED to do TWO ART and TWO GENERAL....some wanted 4 art...some wanted 4 general.....End outcome: Prideaux stands up after singing assembly and "commends" our "effort" but nothing changed ...After that a group of ~7 of us met her at lunchtime and she's like you need to "broaden your horizons" and this is the "MHS culture" and blah blah...

lol, that has been done before. we took it to ludo instead though.

and obviously failed - so did we

[chrisjb]

one of my mates is doing methods 3+4 in yr11, and he anal raped every sac he had... I reccon if you think you're up to it, go for it.

[azngirl456]

My guess is that even though students believe they're ready to do Methods 3/4 at Year 11 level, MHS would have seen many students in the past do Methods 3/4 (in Year 11) and they may not have done as well as they could have. Thus now, they don't allow students to do Methods 3/4 in Year 11 - preferring to let students do it in Year 12.

I take the point, but they are probably top schools due to their selectivity. Anyway, MacRob allows Methods 3+4, but not MHS. Both are top schools and selective.

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True hence, all the threads about "HOW to study to get into MHS" etc. In any case, both MacRob and MHS are very good schools.

Too bad MHS also doesn't let their students do Uni Enhancement subjects (subjects which Mac.Rob lets their students do)

EDIT I see MHS have allowed students next year to undertake uni subjects

As for Methods 3/4, I heard a person who was trying out for MHS in year 10 to go in for year 11 was accepted and then declined the offer when they wouldn't let him do methods 3/4. (despite doing 1/2 methods at his old school)

[Furbob]

There's a student at my school who will be in yr 11 next yr doing Accounting and Bio 3/4.

The teachers weren't so crash hot about it but she's still doing it :S I think it would be better if she didn't choose them knowing that there are 2 mid years and both subjects need some memorizing with the theory

I'm interested to see how she copes