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Stojad

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Basically, I didn't do Specialist Mathematics last year. It wasn't a requirement for Science/Engineering, so I got an offer. However, I'm now up to the unit selection stage of WES and after having my enrolment barred, I got the following error:

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ERROR submitting enrolment form

ENG1030 - Please refer to the handbook or consult your Faculty. Rule breach unit ENG1030
Student has not satisfied a co-requisite (institution-wide) for unit ENG1030. Student must have studied any unit in {ENG1091, ENG1902, MTH1030}.

Remove this unit from the enrolment form and submit again.


The units in which I am supposedly enrolling (following the course handbook) are:

Semester 1
MTH1020, ENG1030, PHS1011, FIT1029
Semester 2
MTH1030, ENG1060, PHS1022, FIT1008

Hell, to quote the course handbook verbatim:

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Stage one

All students to complete:

    * ENG1030 Electrical engineering
    * ENG1060 Computer for engineers
    * PHS1011 Physics (or PHS1080 Foundation physics)
    * PHS1022 Physics

Select one pair of mathematics units from:

    * MTH1020 Analysis of change and MTH1030 Techniques for modelling
    * MTH1030 Techniques for modelling and MTH2010 Multivariable calculus

Select one pair of science units from:

    * ASP1010 Earth to cosmos - introductory astronomy and ASP1022 Life and the universe
    * BIO1011 Biology I and BIO1022 Biology II
    * CHM1011 Chemistry and CHM1022 Chemistry
    * ESC1011 Planet earth and its environment: The cosmic connection, and ESC1022 Planet earth: Dynamic systems, environmental change and resources
    * FIT1029 Algorithmic problem solving and one of FIT1002 Computer programming, FIT1008 Introduction to computer science or FIT2014 Theory of computation
    * STA1010 Statistical methods for science and MTH1112 Numbers, logic and graphs

(Total: 48 points)

So, I can choose only the following pair of mathematics (not having done Specialist Mathematics):
    * MTH1020 Analysis of change and MTH1030 Techniques for modelling

But, the requirements for both ENG1030 and ENG1060 are MTH1030, so this means (as far as I can see) that I can't do either of my Engineering units in the first semester because I must do MTH1030 in second semester (MTH1020 during the first as it is a prerequisite).

So, what am I meant to do? Am I stuck in an impossible situation?  :tickedoff:
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Re: Science/Engineering unit selection without Specialist Mathematics.
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2011, 02:18:34 pm »
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I'm not too sure about this, but I'm guessing you have to reshuffle your units around. You have to do MTH1020 before you can commence either ENG1030 or ENG1060 or otherwise you won't be able to cope with the maths in ENG1030/1060

Try this out:

Semester 1
MTH1020, FIT1008, PHS1011, FIT1029
Semester 2
MTH1030, ENG1060, ENG1030, PHS1022

Hopefully this works.

EDIT: I would recommend you to do FIT1002 instead of FIT1008. I don't think it's possible to do FIT1008 without completing either FIT1029 or FIT1002. FIT1002 doesn't have any prerequisites.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2011, 02:31:27 pm by danieltennis »
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Re: Science/Engineering unit selection without Specialist Mathematics.
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2011, 02:32:10 pm »
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I would not do FIT1008 without doing FIT1002 first. I do know of someone who went straight into FIT1008, but he had programmed in C before and knew what he was doing. FIT1029 is not sufficient preparation for FIT1008 imo, unless you have programming experience (preferably in Java or a similar language such as C#).

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Re: Science/Engineering unit selection without Specialist Mathematics.
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2011, 02:35:02 pm »
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Thank you! That worked. :D

You've been a lot of help (and you were right about doing FIT1002 in stead of FIT1008). :P
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Re: Science/Engineering unit selection without Specialist Mathematics.
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2011, 02:47:06 pm »
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Thank you! That worked. :D

You've been a lot of help (and you were right about doing FIT1002 in stead of FIT1008). :P

No worries :D

You're pretty much a Science student in the first semester lol. Don't worry, you will enjoy it except for PHS1011 lol. I have to do it as well because I deferred it last year in the fifth week and I couldn't do it in semester 2 because it's not offered in sem 2.
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Re: Science/Engineering unit selection without Specialist Mathematics.
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2011, 02:52:15 pm »
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And now to figure out all of the timetabling stuff. That'll be... er, fun. :P
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