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H2SO4

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Re: Exam Suggested Solutions
« Reply #165 on: June 12, 2008, 09:14:25 pm »
side chain confused me, i was unsure if they wanted Z group or not, but it said GROUP so i presummed the Z group, which had a hydroxy.

exam had poor wording.

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« Reply #166 on: June 12, 2008, 09:14:37 pm »
There was no carboxy group on the side chain >.< I cant remember exactly but the chain was like CH2OH, ie. hydroxy.

Amine and Carboxy groups are on the backbone of the amino acid, not the side chain.
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« Reply #167 on: June 12, 2008, 09:15:10 pm »
why isnt it 'carboxy' ???
http://www.brinkmann.com/applications/images/molecular_structure/serine.gif
There's no carboxyl functional group in the side chain.. The side chain is the part coming down from the central carbon in the diagram

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« Reply #168 on: June 12, 2008, 09:16:32 pm »
ROFL hey I was right about the side chain :D
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« Reply #169 on: June 12, 2008, 09:17:54 pm »
oh poor mao
cant answer my simple little question
ill admit i lost a mark, school boy error.
oh well, still doesnt mean u can answer my question does it?
; )

Let me repeat:

You are cocky, but unfortunately for you, it doesn't save you a mark. Nor does this bragging of knowledge outside of the course help you with VCE Chemistry. What is the point of asking a 5-year old child who has only learnt addition how to calculate 5x6 (without explaining the 'x' operation)?

let me repeat,
ill admit i lost a mark, school boy error.
can you answer my question?


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Re: Exam Suggested Solutions
« Reply #170 on: June 12, 2008, 09:20:42 pm »
you are really cokky, go get a life u loser and stop dreaming about chem

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« Reply #171 on: June 12, 2008, 09:21:33 pm »
unfortunately infraredismybitch you asked for all the structural formulas for a cylcoketone of C5H10O of which Mao gave you all five

just because 4 of these have two stereoisomers each (which is not covered in VCE chemistry) doesnt make you somehow a genius who needs to belittle others

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« Reply #172 on: June 12, 2008, 09:23:08 pm »
Quote from: Aba
Sorry to burst everyones bubble, but there was a double dilution! No matter wat anyone says, those who don't believe are in denial.

I presumed the double dilution didn't matter, because whether the solution is diluted or not, there is the same mol in it :S.
The only factor I remember using is the pipette factors(ie, 25mL aliquot from the 1L solution). (btw before answering that question I converted the conc (mg/L was it?) into mol so i ignored the dilution factors)
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« Reply #173 on: June 12, 2008, 09:24:27 pm »
Quote from: Aba
Sorry to burst everyones bubble, but there was a double dilution! No matter wat anyone says, those who don't believe are in denial.

I presumed the double dilution didn't matter, because whether the solution is diluted or not, there is the same mol in it :S.
The only factor I remember using is the pipette factors(ie, 25mL aliquot from the 1L solution). (btw before answering that question I converted the conc (mg/L was it?) into mol so i ignored the dilution factors)
but 2 aliqouts were taken

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« Reply #174 on: June 12, 2008, 09:24:31 pm »
infrared, I kindly request that you play nicely. Consider this a first warning. :)

H2SO4

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« Reply #175 on: June 12, 2008, 09:25:31 pm »
ok my advice to all;

- quit worrying about unit 3, it's over

- start u're unit 4

 ::)

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« Reply #176 on: June 12, 2008, 09:26:28 pm »
ok my advice to all;

- quit worrying about unit 3, it's over

- start u're unit 4

 ::)

no can do, there was a double dilution!

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« Reply #177 on: June 12, 2008, 09:26:36 pm »
unfortunately infraredismybitch you asked for all the structural formulas for a cylcoketone of C5H10O of which Mao gave you all five

just because 4 of these have two stereoisomers each (which is not covered in VCE chemistry) doesnt make you somehow a genius who needs to belittle others

I believe there are 7, unless the last one doesn't count as a "cyclic ketone."

* cyclopentanone
* 3-methylcyclobutanone
* 2-methylcyclobutanone (2 stereoisomers)
* 2-ethylcyclopropanone (2 stereoisomers)
* 2,2-dimethylcyclopropanone
* 2,3-dimethylcyclopropanone (3 stereoisomers)
* acetocyclopropane (not sure how to systematically name this one)

Total: 11

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« Reply #178 on: June 12, 2008, 09:27:17 pm »
Quote from: Aba
Sorry to burst everyones bubble, but there was a double dilution! No matter wat anyone says, those who don't believe are in denial.

I presumed the double dilution didn't matter, because whether the solution is diluted or not, there is the same mol in it :S.
The only factor I remember using is the pipette factors(ie, 25mL aliquot from the 1L solution). (btw before answering that question I converted the conc (mg/L was it?) into mol so i ignored the dilution factors)
but 2 aliqouts were taken

Was there? I can't even remember, if there were two aliquot you would need to use the dilution factor once :S.
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« Reply #179 on: June 12, 2008, 09:27:50 pm »
Quote from: Aba
Sorry to burst everyones bubble, but there was a double dilution! No matter wat anyone says, those who don't believe are in denial.

I presumed the double dilution didn't matter, because whether the solution is diluted or not, there is the same mol in it :S.
The only factor I remember using is the pipette factors(ie, 25mL aliquot from the 1L solution). (btw before answering that question I converted the conc (mg/L was it?) into mol so i ignored the dilution factors)
but 2 aliqouts were taken

Was there? I can't even remember, if there were two aliquot you would need to use the dilution factor once :S.

 a dilution and an aliqout factor