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« Reply #60 on: March 27, 2011, 12:16:02 pm »
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that can't be right. That would just be a ridiculous system, that would mean your exam score is completely dependent on your SAC score and you don't actually get any credit for your work. That means if you have rank 1 at MHS for e.g. , in sacs, you can just not rock up to the exam and get like 145/150

Read what he said properly, he never said your exam score is affected by your SAC score, he said it was the other way around

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« Reply #61 on: March 27, 2011, 12:18:52 pm »
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Okay a hypothetical situation, if I get rank 10 or so in a weak cohort for BM, but blitz the exam with the highest exam score in the cohort, how will my scores be moderated?

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« Reply #62 on: March 27, 2011, 12:19:42 pm »
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For all we know this theory of how vcaa calculate study scores could be wrong. Therefore in my opinion, stop confusing yourself with all this garbage if you dont understand it and make sure that you do well in your sacs as they do count; but most importantly get the best mark possible for the exams.

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« Reply #63 on: March 27, 2011, 12:21:17 pm »
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If you have failed all your sacs, given 0%, but hypothetically, your a genius, and get the top mark in both exams or one exam if theres only one for that subject. Would that automatically put you in 40+ SS?
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« Reply #64 on: March 27, 2011, 12:24:13 pm »
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Tip: Forget about the technical side, just endeavour to lose as few marks as possible for both SACs and the exam.

I may occasionally wonder how it works, but truthfully that mindset seems to be a lot less stressful too.

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« Reply #65 on: March 27, 2011, 12:33:38 pm »
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that can't be right. That would just be a ridiculous system, that would mean your exam score is completely dependent on your SAC score and you don't actually get any credit for your work. That means if you have rank 1 at MHS for e.g. , in sacs, you can just not rock up to the exam and get like 145/150
Reread what I said. A SS is a combination of both your SAC scores and your exam scores. In the situation you have put up, you will most likely get perfect SAC marks if you are rank 1, but that only makes up 50% of your mark. The other 50% would then be made up by 0% if you didn't turn up - which would give you an overall mark/percentage of 50/100, which would only yield about a 30. As I said before, my theory is only a guide, don't blame me if you don't get the score you think you should deserve
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Nope, we definitely aren't...

If you have failed all your sacs, given 0%, but hypothetically, your a genius, and get the top mark in both exams or one exam if theres only one for that subject. Would that automatically put you in 40+ SS?
As I said, it isn't full proof. I hate using it because I feel bad, but go back to the example of some people on here and their SS that they received last year. My theory only accounts for things that go to plan, not the outliers

Tip: Forget about the technical side, just endeavour to lose as few marks as possible for both SACs and the exam.

I may occasionally wonder how it works, but truthfully that mindset seems to be a lot less stressful too.
Exactly, consistency throughout the year WILL pay off, VCAA aren't that cruel (I think?)
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« Reply #66 on: March 27, 2011, 12:38:38 pm »
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Re: Ranks....
« Reply #67 on: March 27, 2011, 12:44:28 pm »
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I think we should should stop worrying about cohorts and rankings, but just try our best in all tests, SACs and exams instead.

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« Reply #68 on: March 27, 2011, 12:59:39 pm »
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I think we should should stop worrying about cohorts and rankings, but just try our best in all tests, SACs and exams instead.

I also took this approach a while ago, no matter how much you look into it, the evidence will prove that the person with the higher score gets the better mark. So just focus on getting 100% on all your sacs/exams, the equation doesn't change no matter what other people are doing.

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Re: Ranks....
« Reply #69 on: March 27, 2011, 11:17:31 pm »
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wow, you had a 95 mark eco sac???


most likely,
it was a test out 95 which accounts for a certain percentage of your schools SAC,
if it is

say, 10% (10 sacs for year)
that's means you've lost .1 x 6/95 marks

Yeah, the SAC was out of 95 marks; it was pretty hardcore... Anyway, I know that the Eco SAC I recently completed (the one out of 95) was worth 40% of my AOS 1.

We do ~8 SACs throughout the year.
How would you work that out?

P.S What do you mean by "most likely"?
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« Reply #70 on: March 28, 2011, 04:31:42 pm »
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ah i get it now... i think...

so exam scores will change SAC scores!

not SAC scores change exam scores

:)
correct... In terms of importance:

1) Exam Score
2) Rank amongst cohort
3) Score on SACs
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Re: Ranks....
« Reply #71 on: March 28, 2011, 08:06:51 pm »
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is there any way to find out wat rank you are?
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« Reply #72 on: March 28, 2011, 08:10:32 pm »
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is there any way to find out wat rank you are?

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« Reply #73 on: March 28, 2011, 08:18:06 pm »
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If your teacher doesnt tell you, then you would have to ask other students and then try and figure out the rankings.

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« Reply #74 on: April 06, 2011, 01:44:28 pm »
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Like already mentioned, the exam score is used to moderate the SAC scores. I'm pretty sure you keep your SAC and exam score though, it's just if you are ranked 1 your SAC is moderated based on the best exam score. So there's no 'stealing' scores I think.
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