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Re: SAC 2 Results
« Reply #45 on: April 16, 2011, 08:21:15 pm »
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Wtf? SAC's are same for everyone - the test difficulty is universal.

If you say Psych SACs are a joke and you get the same average than logically Bio SACs are a joke.

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« Reply #46 on: April 16, 2011, 08:26:55 pm »
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Sigh. You're actually fighting over who's got better SACs? Wow.
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« Reply #47 on: April 16, 2011, 08:30:27 pm »
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So what if it's not the same cohort? :S

Biology cohort gets a test = 88%
Psychology cohort gets a test = 88%

The people in both subjects are 'random' so that variable is controlled.

The IV here is the test. The test for both have exactly the same difficulty. Hence if Psych SACs are a joke than so are Bio SACs.

Sigh. You're actually fighting over who's got better SACs? Wow.
It's 'whose'. And it's not a fight - it's a logical discussion.
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Re: SAC 2 Results
« Reply #48 on: April 16, 2011, 08:36:16 pm »
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Really? But I heard that at MHS the SACs are impossible...esp when that Stiglec guy marks them

You would have done really well, the SACs got progressively easier (laziness by teachers) as the year went on. If I could average an A-A+, then they couldn't of been that hard.
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« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2011, 08:38:07 pm »
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CBF arguing after this but :

People in the subjects are not random.

Spec and PE do not have the same cohort.

a dumb class can do an easy test and get 88% average
a genius class can do a really hard test and get 88%

Your average is only a 1 class sample size, and mine is a guess, and i guess 21 / 25

MC is universally regarded as easier with less knowledge base required. When you have a 40/41 Q MC Psych SAC, and 5/25 MC on Bio SAC, and less on pracs, they are not comparable.

Please get your facts right before you post.

The SAC out of /68 was full short-answer with absolutely zero MCQs.

Lol? Fine I'll say at a guess the average will be 60/68. Doesn't change anything?

Since the people can't be controlled you have to assume randomisation will cause a statistically acceptable distribution.

But yeah - that Bio SAC was a joke and everyone came out saying it was too easy to be true :P

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Re: SAC 2 Results
« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2011, 08:44:48 pm »
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Please get your facts right before you post.

...Please stop fighting over such a small issue...  :angel:
who cares which cohort or watever is better.
mhs guys should be thankful that their sac marks get boosted up anyway   :(
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Re: SAC 2 Results
« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2011, 08:47:15 pm »
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+1 to PhilDunphy, take it to PM if needs be...

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« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2011, 08:50:35 pm »
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+2 Phil Dunphy.

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Re: SAC 2 Results
« Reply #53 on: April 16, 2011, 08:58:21 pm »
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So what if it's not the same cohort? :S

Biology cohort gets a test = 88%
Psychology cohort gets a test = 88%

The people in both subjects are 'random' so that variable is controlled.

The IV here is the test. The test for both have exactly the same difficulty. Hence if Psych SACs are a joke than so are Bio SACs.

Sigh. You're actually fighting over who's got better SACs? Wow.
It's 'whose'. And it's not a fight - it's a logical discussion.[/b]

Actually, it IS who's, so yeah...
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« Reply #54 on: April 16, 2011, 09:01:13 pm »
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So what if it's not the same cohort? :S

Biology cohort gets a test = 88%
Psychology cohort gets a test = 88%

The people in both subjects are 'random' so that variable is controlled.

The IV here is the test. The test for both have exactly the same difficulty. Hence if Psych SACs are a joke than so are Bio SACs.

Sigh. You're actually fighting over who's got better SACs? Wow.
It's 'whose'. And it's not a fight - it's a logical discussion.[/b]

Actually, it IS who's, so yeah...
Who's stands for Who is. ...the sentence makes no sense if you substitute "Who is"

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Re: SAC 2 Results
« Reply #55 on: April 16, 2011, 09:02:29 pm »
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Sigh. You're actually fighting over who's got better SACs? Wow.
It's 'whose'. And it's not a fight - it's a logical discussion.[/b]

Actually, it IS who's, so yeah...
Who's stands for Who is. ...the sentence makes no sense if you substitute "Who is"

Also 'who has', hence, it makes sense

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Re: SAC 2 Results
« Reply #56 on: April 16, 2011, 09:02:45 pm »
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So what if it's not the same cohort? :S

Biology cohort gets a test = 88%
Psychology cohort gets a test = 88%

The people in both subjects are 'random' so that variable is controlled.

The IV here is the test. The test for both have exactly the same difficulty. Hence if Psych SACs are a joke than so are Bio SACs.

Sigh. You're actually fighting over who's got better SACs? Wow.
It's 'whose'. And it's not a fight - it's a logical discussion.[/b]

Actually, it IS who's, so yeah...
Who's stands for Who is. ...the sentence makes no sense if you substitute "Who is"

Also stands for 'who has', which does happen to make sense in that case. 'Whose' is the possessive form of 'who'. And really, some nerve trying to pick a fight (and seemingly losing it again) when I told you to stop =/ Seriously, cut it out.
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« Reply #57 on: April 16, 2011, 09:04:10 pm »
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oi guys shut up lets talk about biology sacs only
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« Reply #58 on: April 16, 2011, 09:04:38 pm »
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Haha /english fail.

I actually never knew about that.

For the second time it was a discussion, not a fight, I was genuinely serious about the SACs equaling in each other in difficulty.

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« Reply #59 on: April 16, 2011, 09:05:41 pm »
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Haha /english fail.

I actually never knew about that.

For the second time it was a discussion, not a fight, I was genuinely serious about the SACs equaling in each other in difficulty.

Knock yourself out:
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