Commerce

[costargh]

ANU is good for law and science I believe...

[Docklands]

Hi guys,

There are a number of summer courses which you can take to satisfy the 3/4 methods prereq for commerce at melbourne. All hope is not lost! but it might mean sacrificing a good part of your summer post y12. I for one am seriously considering this. Has anybody else looked into it?

[costargh]

Hey docklands, have you got links/information about these summer bridging courses? And if these courses are available how to get offered a place at UoM in Commerce if you haven't satisfied the Methods pre-req?

Any information would be appreciated

[Aye Bay Bay]

I talked to one of the people under the Commerce tent at the open day @ UoM and they said you can do this thing where you take the methods equivalent online which is offered by a QLD based company called Uni Learn. They may or may not offer it. I was told you have to get 75% or above. She also told me that it doesn't even go for a semester which seems quite convenient, but you can also do the methods equivalent at another university and transfer into bcomm @ melb.

[costargh]

Thanks Aye Bay Bay, another VN user showed me this site earlier on in the year. i kinda forgot about it up until now so thanks to everyone for reminding me.

So does anyone have any information about if I do this course over the summer, and pass it, I can have my place at UoM Commerce of Monash (if they use this too) to start in Sem 1

[Mao]

i'd imagine you'd have to put in an irregular offer...

[costargh]

In what way would I have to put in an irregular offer? Like how so? Why would I do that?

[Mao]

I don't think VTAC manages pathways... in which case at the time of application you don't have MM prereq, and VTAC selection wouldn't consider you

so you'd have to go through direct entry, i.e. irregular offer

[costargh]

Aw ok. Thanks. I e-mailed Melbourne Uni, need a reply

[costargh]

Dear Costa,

Thank you for your recent enquiry to the University of Melbourne Information Centre.

Students who pass the UniLearn subject and get the required scores specified by the Faculty of Economics and Commerce can meet the entry requirement. However, as the subject is considered equivalent to VCE studies, there is a large time commitment involved to complete the subject.

Selection of students into a course will commence in early January. Thus to be considered for selection into the Bachelor of Commerce degree, you must have results from UniLearn forwarded to the University before that time. If the results are not available, then the University of Melbourne must go on the results already supplied which will mean you will be ineligible.

The UniLearn subjects are just another way for students to meet the prerequisites. They do not guarantee that you will secure a place at the University of Melbourne. Selection into the University of Melbourne will still be based on the ENTER scores as well. Last year the ENTER for the Bachelor of Commerce was 95.60. Australian students wishing to gain a Commonwealth Supported Place (CSP) must have not only met the prerequisites but must have also achieved the Clearly-In ENTER score.

Another option that you may consider is applying to a different University offering a similar course and then looking to transfer across to the University of Melbourne after one year of study. You must make sure you complete a subject that is equivalent to Methods and also look to achieve a good score at university to be competitive for a transfer.

Best wishes for your future studies.

Kind Regards,

Will
Information Officer

So I basically have to have completed the course before they start doing the intake for students in January... shit
It says on Unilearn
"The development team suggests that 100 - 120 hours is a useful guide for completion of this course"

Hmmmmmmmmmm FUCK I HATE EVERYONE lol jokes.

Lol but i like the way he sorta suggested that I wont get the required ENTER anyway so dont bother haha
which is probz true lol
i wodner if monash has a similar thing

[psychlaw]

If you really want commerce at UoM, start doing that unilearn thing now. If your not a procastonator and have good time management skills (which probably means you should immediately start studying for exams), then im sure you could complete that course aswell as your vce subjects.

[costargh]

Yeh I know, i was talking about it with some friends at lunch. I might do that. Start ASAP. get some info and shit

But then it would be like doing 6 subjects... starting methods equivalent course mid august....
sounds kinad rushed. :S

[psychlaw]

yea and even if you don't get the 96 required, you can still get into Monash (Commerce/Economics) I think (contact them to ask maybe?) either way, its better then moving for five years to another state (ANU)

[costargh]

yeh i decided not gonna apply for ANU anymore. But yeh thats the plan, contact Monash and see if they use this bridging course too and stuff and I think this is where Mao's comment about irregular comments come into play. If my results werent in on time, but I had a huigh enough enter for com/eco or com at monash clayton then i could make an irregular offer with my results.. but 75% !!!! If exams finished like mid november, then I would have until about mid December I think... about a month to fulyl learn everything... btu i cood start a bit now throughout the year i guess

[Mao]

costa:

1) you should start looking at the methods course now. as good as the pathway might sound, packing in the whole methods course is NOT a good idea. I'm sure you are self-conscious that mathematics is not your strong point, and believe me that any normal person can only do a certain amount of math in a given amount of time. Considering that you have already sat through the coursework last year, it might be an idea to just go over the course again, maybe with a tutor, and cover the main concepts before you start this bridging/foundation course [or alternatively, start now]

2) don't put all your eggs into one basket. I'm not sure about requirements for commerce at RMIT/Deakin/La Trobe/ACU, but they are certainly viable options you should look into. Apply from VTAC first, and after you have accepted the first-round offers, try for a second-round irregular placement at Monash/UoM. That way, if they reject you, you always have a course to go into. If you apply for irregular offer straight away, I am fairly sure you forfeit your application via VTAC.