dropping this?

[Mao]

I have come to a stage of absolute cbf'd ness with this subject. My silly decision of taking 8 subjects [lol] is taking its toll, and I am contemplating on dropping English.
I do have another English subject [English Language] which will satisfy the English requirement, and I currently enjoy that subject a whole lot more than mainstream [though still much less than my other subjects], and my SAC results have consistently proven that I am better at EL than mainstream. In the grand-scheme of things, English will count as my 7th or 8th subject and not play a part in my ENTER score.

It has been communicated to me that I can complete the remaining SACs for mainstream [one on wednesday one in term 4], not show up to the exam and still receive an S. I am currently inclined to take this path.

My abilities in English is not all that bad, even though I hate the subject with a passion. I had to do unit 1/2 mainstream because EL clashed with another subject of mine. In my frustration I dropped unit 2 [lol] last year and did U1/2 EL independantly. I am now in the same boat again. I have tried to justify keeping the subject, but the thought of not having to do it is TOO enticing.

would anyone care to help me out and give some reasonings against it? I'd really appreciate that =]

cheers,

[psychlaw]

wow, you've survived this far in the year... you should DEFINATELY not drop english now

my reasoning: English is generally the downfall for those good at maths/science, and it may even prevent them from breaking the 99.xx barrier. Mao, you've gotten through the whole year with english, only 40 days left! Its a lifeline incase you screw up the English Language exam (anything can happen in a day)...

everyone has a "grand scheme of things" like you, but things dont always work to plan, english can be a lifeline and you may just regret dropping it in the future. Stick to it Mao, not long left anyway.

[costargh]

Safety net: IF you fuck up English language and surprisingly find the English exam easier, you might find yourself in a position where your English mark exceeds your Eng Language mark. (99% chance this wont happen though lol)

Just attempting the exam could leave you presently suprised, like you really only have 2 sacs left, its not that much more work left for the year. You do in 2 days and one next term... doesnt seem like a hell of a lot studying left to do. So I rekon just keep it, do the exam and just have it as back up

[ninwa]

Yeah, it seems a shame to drop a subject when you've already finished most of the (painful)* journey - it's a bit of a waste of all the time you've spent on English.

Like psychlaw said, this can be your backup in case you stuff up EL (touch wood

Alternatively, think of it this way - in life, you'll always have to do things you don't enjoy doing - here's good practice for sticking things out and not taking the easy way out by giving up when the going gets tough!



*disclaimer: I don't think it's a painful journey, I loved English even though most of VN don't seem to

[bucket]

english sucks :s.
i wish my school offered el.

[Mao]

thanks guys

the main thing is that I have 6 subjects this year [don't ask me why], and the amount of work I put in for English(s) farrrrr exceeds the energy I devote to my other subjects [which I really should start working in, considering the limited amount of time left]. That is, I do not have enough energy to properly prepare for one English exam, let alone 2.

Whilst I do understand English is the main downfall of math/science people, I am not aiming terribly high, just a simple 30 in EL to get me the score for the course I want, anything more will be a bonus. I have cross-checked with my teacher and my current SAC performance in reference to last-years predicts a SS much higher. Worst case scenario, I do not think I will flunk EL THAT badly.

There are times when I stare at the computer screen wondering how on earth i'm going to pull more crap out of my arse to talk about something with little to none relevant significance [i mean seriously, how does analysing a ficticious character bear importance to me? that's more disconnected than math!], and after a night sleeping on it and then 6 more hours of work, I get a pat on the back - "nice essay"... "you meant nice piece of bullshit?"

sorry i hate it with a PASSION

[psychlaw]

Whilst I do understand English is the main downfall of math/science people, I am not aiming terribly high, just a simple 30 in EL

Sorry, I hate to be contradictory between posts, but aafter reading your last post. Definately Drop it lol

I know its a sudden change of heart from me, but if you don't need it, theres no point bothering studying for that killer exam (3 hours!!)... Concentrate on your other subjects, you don't need English now and I'm positive you can get 40+ with English Language anyway (your a smart guy)

Goodluck with VCE. Have fun with no english


Summary of why you SHOULD drop english
(1) You don't need it for your enter (you said a 30 in EL would do)
(2) You hate it with a passion, so theres no point putting yourself through that torture
(3) You can devote more time towards other subjects (particularily english language)

[ice_blockie]

Here's my three cents:

How dare you call writing an essay pulling crap out of ur arse!!!! It is a piece of artwork moulded by your thoughts and your ability to weave complexities of themes and grammatical structures.....

okay seriously... i will stop there or else this will turn into a rant...LOL...to be blunt...if theres no love, then theres no point continuing...whats the point? (why does it seem like im talking about relationships???) You've already have an english and  I'm amazed that you can hold everything together. I would have shot myself after 2 weeks and raised a white flag...shows how much perseverance I have.

So Mao do what you want and drop it (if that's wat you want) and don't have any doubts about it!!

[hard]

in my opinion, i say drop the hell out of it. you got 8 SUBJECTS that's more than enough, cut one loose and keep the rest. You got an easy 99 in your bag.

[costargh]

I actually think it's really stupid to drop it LOL.

Consider this, how many people go through the ENTIRE year 12 doing NO WORK. Like literally nothing, and get S for their subjects. You have already studied for more than one semester on this subject and even if you bludged now and winged the exam, your understanding of the course would come through.

If people can bludge a subject all year and get a 30, I'm sure you can bludge the next 2 months and get a min 30.

[Mao]

thanks ice_blockie/psychlaw/costa
I think I am decided in dropping it. English teacher is going to have a fun time hearing about that tomorrow. haha. [he's also my EL teacher]

You've already have an english and  I'm amazed that you can hold everything together. I would have shot myself after 2 weeks and raised a white flag...shows how much perseverance I have.

you see, I've consistently managed to wag 40% of classes with the "legit" excuse of needing to go to uni for MUEP.

How dare you call writing an essay pulling crap out of ur arse!!!! It is a piece of artwork moulded by your thoughts and your ability to weave complexities of themes and grammatical structures.....

well, mine are. take a read at this:

         

Emotions can often be passed on by osmosis. Being in proximity to negative media will adversely affect a person's mood. This is shown many times throughout the film,  one of such is the montage of media related to cancer that has been exposed to Nick. Its immediate effects on the character (Nick) is not directly shown in the film, however, its fast pace and the background sounds (bubbling and swishing) gives the feeling of suspense and imminent death. Within this montage, various media types including newspapers and web animations were shown, and the multimodal bombardment of negativity casts a cloud of fear around the audience and paralyses them by reminding them of their mortality.

how more pulling crap out of arse can you get? haha

[Aye Bay Bay]

only 40 days left!

Sorry for going off topic but wow

[Mao]

I actually think it's really stupid to drop it LOL.

Consider this, how many people go through the ENTIRE year 12 doing NO WORK. Like literally nothing, and get S for their subjects. You have already studied for more than one semester on this subject and even if you bludged now and winged the exam, your understanding of the course would come through.

If people can bludge a subject all year and get a 30, I'm sure you can bludge the next 2 months and get a min 30.

granted that there are two ways of looking at this:
- "you've come this far, why give up now?"
- "you've wasted enough, why waste more?" [me at this very moment]

I'd have a lot more motivation if I can concentrate on EL and try to achieve higher in it. [by higher I don't mean anymore than 35 ] This will be a lot more beneficial as I'd have more time to spend on other subjects which I do enjoy a lot more in [sciences, math]

It's like for a course where the prereqs are 25 in MM or SM
you tell a person who doesn't even like math to do MM and SM. "just in case you flunk MM, you can try in SM"
"but, but, I don't even like it. and I sit there for 6 hours on one question and I still can't get it right."

[hard]

just drop it, no use dreading over it and THEN another 3 hours of your life gone plus an extra bonus to your grievousness by finding out that it didn't count to nothing. Somethings are not worth it and i'm finding out that physics isn't 1 of them.

[bucket]

I actually think it's really stupid to drop it LOL.

Consider this, how many people go through the ENTIRE year 12 doing NO WORK. Like literally nothing, and get S for their subjects. You have already studied for more than one semester on this subject and even if you bludged now and winged the exam, your understanding of the course would come through.

If people can bludge a subject all year and get a 30, I'm sure you can bludge the next 2 months and get a min 30.

yeahhhh
someone at my school literally did no homework in health and human last year apart from the day before a sac/the exam and she got a 42.

I say don't bother about studying for it. Just do the exam and at the end of the day you might get a study score you can live with, or you can get a horribly low study score which will have a negligible impact on your enter