Private Schools

[Spreadbury]

To be honest I don't see the value of private schools

What about religious schools? They can't be public by law.

I don't really see the point of religious schools either. schooling isn't about religion, it's about learning. there's a wide range of outlets for religion, the outlets for schooling are probably considerably more narrow.

[Yitzi_K]

To be honest I don't see the value of private schools

What about religious schools? They can't be public by law.

I don't really see the point of religious schools either. schooling isn't about religion, it's about learning. there's a wide range of outlets for religion, the outlets for schooling are probably considerably more narrow.

Ah well I'd have to disagree with you there. In my school, over 2 hours of every day is devoted to religious studies. And bear in mind this is year 12 we're talking about.

[littlebecc]

I would vouch that a lot of public schools are NOT like your old one. "Less of a brat" is really a personal thing, "more positive frindship group that actually care about school" perhaps you should've chosen your friends more wisely? And there are a portion of people at my school (and undoubtedly, every other school) that want to do well and care about school. And teachers at my school care, and are willing to help- and generallly stay after school anyway, though i'm not sure if they'd stay any longer than usual to help. I don't ask, seems a little inconsiderate really.

to generalise that everyone who goes to a public school cares about school is probably false, I know someone who goes to a private school and they tell me some people there just as bad as those who don't care at my school.

No, sorry i never meant to generalize. I was just saying from personal experience.  And yeah, sure i could have 'chosen my friends more wisely' but whatever happened happened.
I was also more influenced with drugs, stealing etc at the school, which could maybe be due to the lower SES of those families compared to private schools. I'm not meaning to be offensive with that previous sentence either, but it could be a factor.
I'm just saying what I believe, and i'm not against public schools at all. I had a lot of fun at that school.

And you're right...there's always people that want to do well and always people who hate school- no matter where they go
Sorry if i offended you in any way

[littlebecc]

Ah well I'd have to disagree with you there. In my school, over 2 hours of every day is devoted to religious studies. And bear in mind this is year 12 we're talking about.

and do you enjoy that?

[Chavi]

To be honest I don't see the value of private schools

What about religious schools? They can't be public by law.

I don't really see the point of religious schools either. schooling isn't about religion, it's about learning. there's a wide range of outlets for religion, the outlets for schooling are probably considerably more narrow.

There's nothing to learn from religion? even in an educational. . no especially in an educational paradigm?

[IntoTheNewWorld]

yeah i'd say cost is a huge part of it, but in all honesty i'd never go to a private school simply because of the uniforms.

are you serious lol.

I would probably send my kids to a private school if they fail the selective school test though, if I had the money. Unless public schools magically become awesome by the time I have to think about this.

[Yitzi_K]

Ah well I'd have to disagree with you there. In my school, over 2 hours of every day is devoted to religious studies. And bear in mind this is year 12 we're talking about.

and do you enjoy that?

well tbh it's the first 2 hours of the day, so often I'm tired/asleep. But otherwise, yes, definitely.

[littlebecc]

If you're interested in religion- go for it.
But i don't think 3 year olds really have the choice to go to a catholic school.

Shit, i probably shouldn't have gotten into this topic. It's extremely controversial

*backs away slowly*

[littlebecc]

But otherwise, yes, definitely.

Then more power to you bud.
I know so many of my friends that despise it

[akira88]

To be honest I don't see the value of private schools

What about religious schools? They can't be public by law.

I don't really see the point of religious schools either. schooling isn't about religion, it's about learning. there's a wide range of outlets for religion, the outlets for schooling are probably considerably more narrow.

Well if you don't see the point of them, don't go to one (which I assume you don't). I don't see the point for Ferraris, they're unnecessarily fast, cars aren't about speeding, cars are for driving.
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I appreciate your opinion but who says students don't learn at religious schools? Would you know? Have you been to one?

[chubs.peterson]

errm who said cars werent about speeding??

[Spreadbury]

To be honest I don't see the value of private schools

What about religious schools? They can't be public by law.

I don't really see the point of religious schools either. schooling isn't about religion, it's about learning. there's a wide range of outlets for religion, the outlets for schooling are probably considerably more narrow.

Well if you don't see the point of them, don't go to one (which I assume you don't). I don't see the point for Ferraris, they're unnecessarily fast, cars aren't about speeding, cars are for driving.
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I appreciate your opinion but who says students don't learn at religious schools? Would you know? Have you been to one?

can't be bothered editing the quotes down, sorry. but akira my point was that religion and education can easily be kept seperate. it's like my earlier point about music not having to be offered through schools. generally, schools are the only place (other than tutors which are generally more of an 'on the side' thing) where you can learn math, english and other essential academic skills. religion is not an essential academic skill.

but I may take a line from littlebecc here. *backs away slowly*

[EvangelionZeta]

To be honest I don't see the value of private schools

What about religious schools? They can't be public by law.

I don't really see the point of religious schools either. schooling isn't about religion, it's about learning. there's a wide range of outlets for religion, the outlets for schooling are probably considerably more narrow.

To this, along with your other comment about non-academic learning being for outside of school, I'd just like to re-iterate that schooling isn't just about learning science or English - it's about learning for life, something which religion (for some anyway, I do profess a fear for hardcore fundamentalist religious schools) often provides for.  I can vouchsafe for this personally - the religion classes at Melbourne Grammar made a massive difference to my life (and not in the sense that I became religious, because I'm not).

To your points about overgeneralising being bad, I agree - nevertheless, you're restricting all of your arguments to a small sample space.  Although you may know a lot of people who want to do well, and although your friend's schoolmates might be laidback and apathetic, from a logical perspective there's no reason why there wouldn't be a larger percentage of "motivated" kids at private schools.  Again though, overgeneralising is bad, and I'm not saying you won't get these kinds of kids at public schools too (look at some of the people on VN, for instance...), but the atmosphere in private schools will often just foster that kind of attitude more easily.

I think Russ and Appianway have put forward the best views here.  In the grander scheme of things, it's not like private schools are "lolzt3hawesomz" in comparison to everything else by a long shot; nevertheless, it's undeniable that they're at an advantage, and it does come down to whether or not the cost is worth it for attending.  

On one last note, Appianway does also bring up a good point - although it's arguable that it's necessarily a good thing, private schools tend to attract a lot more internationally/socially focused individuals, and in an environment where people are casually applying for Ivy Leagues/Oxbridge, you're bound to set your sights a bit higher...

[Chavi]

errm who said cars werent about speeding??

The Victorian road toll, that will only increase with people like you on the road.
btw, great to see that you registered an account just to make this comment.

[akira88]

To be honest I don't see the value of private schools

What about religious schools? They can't be public by law.

I don't really see the point of religious schools either. schooling isn't about religion, it's about learning. there's a wide range of outlets for religion, the outlets for schooling are probably considerably more narrow.

Well if you don't see the point of them, don't go to one (which I assume you don't). I don't see the point for Ferraris, they're unnecessarily fast, cars aren't about speeding, cars are for driving.
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I appreciate your opinion but who says students don't learn at religious schools? Would you know? Have you been to one?

can't be bothered editing the quotes down, sorry. but akira my point was that religion and education can easily be kept seperate. it's like my earlier point about music not having to be offered through schools. generally, schools are the only place (other than tutors which are generally more of an 'on the side' thing) where you can learn math, english and other essential academic skills. religion is not an essential academic skill.

but I may take a line from littlebecc here. *backs away slowly*

I understand where you're coming from, but then again, is doing an art subject an essential academic skill under your rules? How about sport? Religion is a choice, doing sport is a choice, all up to each individual. But since you're backing away I'll leave you alone

@chubs.peterson:
Lol I used speeding because I couldn't think of anything else, fail on my behalf.