Religion

[humph]

She means some people are catholic (or like to consider themselves Catholic) but if you ask them if they believe in God they'd say no.

Half of the people at my Catholic school said they don't believe in god, yet they still call themselves catholic.

? Surely that's a contradiction. Defining yourself as a Catholic is defining your religious beliefs.

I was raised by Catholic parents and went to a Catholic school, but I'd call myself an atheist. I wouldn't call myself a Catholic merely from family and education.

[bturville]

How intellectually lazy..

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intellectually lazy?

knowing how to spell the point you are arguing for 0

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She means some people are catholic (or like to consider themselves Catholic) but if you ask them if they believe in God they'd say no.

Half of the people at my Catholic school said they don't believe in god, yet they still call themselves catholic.

? Surely that's a contradiction. Defining yourself as a Catholic is defining your religious beliefs.

I was raised by Catholic parents and went to a Catholic school, but I'd call myself an atheist. I wouldn't call myself a Catholic merely from family and education.

yes i find that a complete contradiction. You cannot say that you're catholic if you don't believe in god. The main point of Christianity and Catholicism is god. Essentially without god you don't have Christianity.

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How intellectually lazy..

athiesm 1 religion 0

intellectually lazy?

knowing how to spell the point you are arguing for 0

Haha... Pwnt!

[costargh]

Yeh I'm not saying I agree with that. I actually completely disagee with that. It's just the way people want to be perceived. Potentially out of fear of being shunned by their families or something so they continue through life saying their Catholic and liking the idea of thinking they are Catholic but knowing whole-heartedly that they dont believe in God.

I dont know why the people do that. Its just the trend at my school. (ex school I should say)

[dusty_girl1144]

RIGHTIO

explanation coming.

people who are baptised at birth are deemed to b catholic yea?

i know QUITE a few people who are "considered" catholic, just because they attend a catholic school, been baptised and study the subject, but they dont actually believe that a god exists.

get me?

yeah it sounds contradicting, but like... IT HAPPENS

explanation complete.

im not reained to read how those peoples minds work. im just merely stating what i see and fit to be true


EDIT: secondly...

i am catholic, and believe myself as being catholic, but cathloics dont believe in re incarnation... does that mean im not catholic?

[xox.happy1.xox]

RIGHTIO

explanation coming.

people who are baptised at birth are deemed to b catholic yea?

i know QUITE a few people who are "considered" catholic, just because they attend a catholic school, been baptised and study the subject, but they dont actually believe that a god exists.

get me?

yeah it sounds contradicting, but like... IT HAPPENS

explanation complete.

im not reained to read how those peoples minds work. im just merely stating what i see and fit to be true

I guess I kind of fall under this category... I was baptised, but ultimately, the faith in God for me slowly dissipated.

[dusty_girl1144]

RIGHTIO

explanation coming.

people who are baptised at birth are deemed to b catholic yea?

i know QUITE a few people who are "considered" catholic, just because they attend a catholic school, been baptised and study the subject, but they dont actually believe that a god exists.

get me?

yeah it sounds contradicting, but like... IT HAPPENS

explanation complete.

im not reained to read how those peoples minds work. im just merely stating what i see and fit to be true

I guess I kind of fall under this category... I was baptised, but ultimately, the faith in God for me slowly dissipated.

point ... proven
thanxs happy ^^


BTW THERES AN EDIT TO THE LAST POST :p

JUST SO PEOPLE PICK IT UP ^^

[bturville]

me too. catholic primary & secondary schools, etc etc.

[costargh]

I dont like the idea of being baptised, having confirmation etc.

I dont think it reflects an individuals personal beliefs. I'd much prefer, if I had children and they went to a Catholic or christian school for that matter, to grow up with that education, and then at the age of 18 for example, choose whether they have those strong beliefs and want to be formally inducted into the chuch, or whether they want to live say a 'spiritual' life or just any kinda life.

[dusty_girl1144]

I dont like the idea of being baptised, having confirmation etc.

I dont think it reflects an individuals personal beliefs. I'd much prefer, if I had children and they went to a Catholic or christian school for that matter, to grow up with that education, and then at the age of 18 for example, choose whether they have those strong beliefs and want to be formally inducted into the chuch, or whether they want to live say a 'spiritual' life or just any kinda life.

some people do... because heck... it can be a process to kinda feel werid doing in the future.

like baptism, confirmation and reconciliation all at the same time... would feel strange.

like its not a process to belong to the religion, its simple just a nice feeling. but it doesnt kinda confirm u are catholic.

oin the future, kids can choose what religion they chose to follow. at least when being small it gives a starting point, so the child belongs somewhere.

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I dont like the idea of being baptised, having confirmation etc.

I dont think it reflects an individuals personal beliefs. I'd much prefer, if I had children and they went to a Catholic or christian school for that matter, to grow up with that education, and then at the age of 18 for example, choose whether they have those strong beliefs and want to be formally inducted into the chuch, or whether they want to live say a 'spiritual' life or just any kinda life.

True. Especially given that when you're baptised, you are still young, and don't have the assertiveness to decide whether you have a religion, or are living under a facade to follow what your parents believe. Everyone has a right to decide what they believe in, whether it be atheism or Catholicism, it shouldn't matter.

EDIT: You're right, Dusty... Lol.

[sxcalexc]

I was 'christened' and went to a Catholic primary/secondary school. I had my doubts about religion/God and eventually after much deliberation, reading and discussion I totally detached myself from any faith in around Year 10. Since then, I have grown more confidence in my doubt of a supernatural being. However, I still enjoy discussing the implications of religion and I make sure I keep an open mind. Most of my family (particularly grandparents) are still religious and there are still church functions. I do not want to tell the 'elderly' of the family as there is still a stigma against atheists that is generally held by the older generation. I would not want them to feel that I am 'doomed' and feeling guilty; so I do this purely in their interests. The Greek Orthodox Church (what I was christened under) do have traditional events, such as at Easter. I go to such events sparingly but I do appreciate the tradition and community atmosphere at them.

[osmoister]

EDIT: secondly...

i am catholic, and believe myself as being catholic, but cathloics dont believe in re incarnation... does that mean im not catholic?

Depends if you believe in reincarnation

[dusty_girl1144]

EDIT: secondly...

i am catholic, and believe myself as being catholic, but cathloics dont believe in re incarnation... does that mean im not catholic?

Depends if you believe in reincarnation

yes i do believe in reincarnation

and i still think im VERY catholic and believe in god or a higher power