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Top Scorers' Names/SS Compilation
« on: December 30, 2008, 06:37:00 pm »
By School [28]:
Melbourne Grammar [5]: William Hatfield, Gregory Lee,
Benjamin Wong, Dean Seah, Jason Singh
MacRobertson Girls' [4]: Amanda Tan, Alice Nagel,
Hannah Gould, Esther Faine-Vallantin
Scotch College [4]: Timothy Martin, Minh-Quan Nguyen,
Andy Wang, Matthew Pierri
Xavier College [3]: Stephen Hughes, Miltiadis Paikopoulos,
Joseph Valente
Trinity Grammar [2]: Andrew Bennett, Roman Zethoven
Camberwell Grammar [2]: Andrew Chester, Eddy Qiu
Presbyterian Ladies' [2]: Michelle Yii, Jessie Zhao
Melbourne Girls' Grammar [1]: Hannah Warnaar
St Kevin's College [1]: Christopher Shallue
Penleigh & Essendon [1]: Anne Stewart
Mt Scopus College [1]: Michael Shafar
Melbourne High [1]: Calum Sargeant
Caulfield Grammar [1]: Eric Leung

I am missing three names from that list - can anyone help?
Unconfirmed:
Ballarat & Clarendon College [1]: Natasha Robbins

Here are their 2008 scores, for interest:
By Student, "Totals" [28]:
2. Stewart, Anne (Penleigh and Essendon Grammar School Keilor East): 6 total
   Chemistry: 47 |  English: 48 |    LOTE French: 44 |    LOTE Latin: 45 |    Mathematical Methods: 48 |    Specialist Mathematics: 45
4. Bennett, Andrew (Trinity Grammar School Kew): 5 total
   Chemistry: 46 |    Economics: 50 |    English: 47 |    Mathematics - Specialist Mathematics: 50 |    Physics: 50
5. Hughes, Stephen (Xavier College Kew): 5 total
   Biology: 50 |    Chemistry: 49 |    English: 50 |    LOTE Classical Greek: 49 |    Mathematics - Specialist Mathematics: 44
8. Wong, Benjamin (Melbourne Grammar School): 5 total
   Chemistry: 41 |    English: 50 |    Literature: 50 |    Mathematical Methods: 49 |    Mathematics - Specialist Mathematics: 44
9. Chester, Andrew (Camberwell Grammar School Canterbury): 5 total
   Chemistry: 48 |    Literature: 46 |    LOTE French: 44 |    Mathematics - Specialist Mathematics: 50 |    Physics: 50
13. Nguyen, Minh-Quan (Scotch College Hawthorn): 5 total
   Chemistry: 47 |    English: 50 |    History - Revolutions: 50 |    National Politics: 44 |    LOTE German: 44
25. Hatfield, William (Melbourne Grammar School): 5 total
   Chemistry: 50 |    English: 48 |    LOTE Latin: 43 |    Mathematics - Specialist Mathematics: 46 |    Physics: 49
26. Sargeant, Calum (Melbourne High School South Yarra): 5 total
   Chemistry: 47 |    English: 50 |    LOTE French: 45 |    Mathematics - Mathematical Methods: 47 |    Physics: 49
34. Martin, Timothy (Scotch College Hawthorn): 5 total
   Chemistry: 48 |    English: 50 |    Mathematical Methods (CAS): 48 |    Specialist Mathematics: 46 |    Physics: 47
69. Lee, Gregory (Melbourne Grammar School): 5 total
   Chemistry: 48 |    English (ESL): 49 |    LOTE French: 47 |    Mathematics - Specialist Mathematics: 45 |    Physics: 47
82. Seah, Dean (Melbourne Grammar School): 5 total
   Chemistry: 44 |    English: 49 |    LOTE Latin: 47 |    Mathematics - Specialist Mathematics: 43 |    Physics: 45
178. Robbins, Natasha (Ballarat and Clarendon College): 4 total
   English: 50 |    History - Australian History: 50 |    Physical Education: 50 |    Psychology: 50
179. Wang, Andy (Scotch College Hawthorn): 4 total
   Accounting: 49 |    English: 48 |    Mathematics - Specialist Mathematics: 50 |    Physics: 50
181. Nagel, Alice (MacRobertson Girls High School Melbourne): 4 total
   English: 50 |    International Politics - International Studies: 44 |    LOTE German: 49 |    Psychology: 50
183. Shallue, Christopher (St Kevin's College Toorak): 4 total
   Chemistry: 48 |    English: 50 |    Mathematics - Specialist Mathematics: 50 |    Physics: 47
202. Zhao, Jessie (Presbyterian Ladies' College Burwood): 4 total
   Biology: 50 |    Chemistry: 47 |    English: 49 |    Mathematics - Specialist Mathematics: 45
208. Tan, Amanda (MacRobertson Girls High School Melbourne): 4 total
   Chemistry: 49 |    English: 50 |    History - Revolutions: 45 |    Mathematics - Specialist Mathematics: 43
221. Yii, Michelle (Presbyterian Ladies' College Burwood): 4 total
   Accounting: 50 |    Chemistry: 46 |    English: 48 |    Mathematics - Specialist Mathematics: 48
223. Paikopoulos, Miltiadis (Xavier College Kew): 4 total
   English: 50 |    LOTE Classical Greek: 48 |    LOTE Latin: 47 |    Mathematics - Specialist Mathematics: 45
241. Gould, Hannah (MacRobertson Girls High School Melbourne): 4 total
   Legal Studies: 41 |    Literature: 46 |    LOTE Japanese Second Language: 47 |    Philosophy: 50
316. Qiu, Eddy (Camberwell Grammar School Canterbury): 4 total
   Chemistry: 49 |    English Language: 45 |    Mathematics - Specialist Mathematics: 48 |    Physics: 48
329. Faine-Vallantin, Esther (MacRobertson Girls High School Melbourne): 4 total
   Drama: 44 |    English: 49 |    International Politics - International Studies: 46 |    LOTE French: 46
368. Singh, Jason (Melbourne Grammar School): 4 total
   English: 47 |    LOTE French: 48 |    LOTE Latin: 41 |    Mathematics - Specialist Mathematics: 43
371. Pierri, Matthew (Scotch College Hawthorn): 4 total
   Chemistry: 46 |    English: 46 |    LOTE French: 45 |    Mathematics - Specialist Mathematics: 48
760. Shafar, Michael (Mt Scopus Memorial College Burwood): 3 total
   Chemistry: 46 |    English: 50 |    Mathematics - Specialist Mathematics: 50
764. Valente, Joseph (Xavier College Kew): 3 total
   Accounting: 50 |    English: 49 |   LOTE Italian: 48
778. Warnaar, Hannah (Melbourne Girls Grammar South Yarra): 3 total
   English: 50 |    Literature: 48 |    LOTE Latin: 46
2120. Zethoven, Roman (Trinity Grammar School Kew): 2 total
   English: 50 |    Geography: 50
« Last Edit: December 30, 2008, 11:27:02 pm by Synesthetic »
2007- History Revs (44)[46], Chinese SL (32)[44]
2008- English (50)[50], Literature (50)[50], Methods (49)[49.7], Specialist (44)[50.5], Chemistry (41)[45]
ENTER: 99.95

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Re: Top Scorers' Names/SS Compilation
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2008, 09:05:09 pm »
Looking at the very last name: so are we saying he only did two 3/4's in Year 12...that's a whole lot of free periods, and a seriously reduced stress level
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Re: Top Scorers' Names/SS Compilation
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2008, 09:12:29 pm »
They are achieved study scores above or equal to 40; his other subjects are lower
2007- History Revs (44)[46], Chinese SL (32)[44]
2008- English (50)[50], Literature (50)[50], Methods (49)[49.7], Specialist (44)[50.5], Chemistry (41)[45]
ENTER: 99.95

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Re: Top Scorers' Names/SS Compilation
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2008, 11:22:02 am »
Which one of those names are you, Synesthetic?
8. Wong, Benjamin (Melbourne Grammar School): 5 total
   Chemistry: 41 |    English: 50 |    Literature: 50 |    Mathematical Methods: 49 |    Mathematics - Specialist Mathematics: 44
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Re: Top Scorers' Names/SS Compilation
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2008, 12:04:16 pm »
Interesting, I think there were only a couple of scores below 48 for English in that list. Also, the number of people who did LOTEs in that list is quite large.
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Re: Top Scorers' Names/SS Compilation
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2008, 12:55:23 pm »
Interesting, I think there were only a couple of scores below 48 for English in that list. Also, the number of people who did LOTEs in that list is quite large.

Yeah, the lowest scaled score for English I could see was 46 (Matthew Pierri). (Eddy Qiu got 45 raw for EngLang but that is scaled up by two). That English score really is vital to a good ENTER.

Also regarding your second point, taking 2007/2006 scores into account as well, there are only four top scorer students this year who seemingly did not have a LOTE in their aggregate (Bennett, Martin, Shallue, and myself =P), and two others who technically with the data available may not have needed one (Shafar, Yii [I think only if she got a H pass in a uni subject...I think it is more likely she did Latin etc, though]).
« Last Edit: December 31, 2008, 01:06:30 pm by Synesthetic »
2007- History Revs (44)[46], Chinese SL (32)[44]
2008- English (50)[50], Literature (50)[50], Methods (49)[49.7], Specialist (44)[50.5], Chemistry (41)[45]
ENTER: 99.95

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Re: Top Scorers' Names/SS Compilation
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2008, 01:02:53 pm »
Also regarding your second point, taking 2007/2006 scores into account, there are only four top scorer students this year who I am certain did not have a LOTE in their aggregate (Bennett, Martin, Shallue, and myself =P), and two others who technically with the data available may not have needed one (Shafar, Yii [I think only if she got a H pass in a uni subject]).

Yes. Also, I noticed that the LOTE's that were commonly attempted were French, German, Classical Greek and Latin (the former two are probably common anyway but the latter two...) and as far as I know those 4 have can go pretty high. So despite the aggregate for 99.95 being below that 210 barrier which means that people can get a 99.95 without needing a subject to scale above 50, scaling above 50 remains the common trait in many of the people that achieved 99.95 (I know you are an exception, unless the extra 0.5 from spesh took you over the line :P)
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2008, 01:26:34 pm »
Haha it did :P All of those four names did spesh though (with scores of 44, 46, 50, 50), and without the scaling above 50 I believe none of us would be top scorers. To achieve 99.95 without one score scaled above 50 would be extremely rare - you'd need five 50's like Natasha Robbins (in addition to her four 50's this year she got a 50 for Legal in 2007...and I'm still not sure if she's a top scorer so I didn't include her in the four names above).

A point to be made though is that the scaling for Specialist is fair - it is a difficult subject that can somewhat be seen as pre-first year maths (and anyway, this year its scaling was not too much higher than that for Methods). I'm not sure what justifies the scaling for Latin {(30)[47]} and Classical Greek {(30)[46]} though. The 'government policy' is in place to encourage the study of modern LOTEs, not outdated ones!
2007- History Revs (44)[46], Chinese SL (32)[44]
2008- English (50)[50], Literature (50)[50], Methods (49)[49.7], Specialist (44)[50.5], Chemistry (41)[45]
ENTER: 99.95

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Re: Top Scorers' Names/SS Compilation
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2008, 01:45:29 pm »

  What is it a list of, is it highest aggregates?

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Re: Top Scorers' Names/SS Compilation
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2008, 01:49:00 pm »
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Re: Top Scorers' Names/SS Compilation
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2008, 09:35:49 pm »
Haha it did :P All of those four names did spesh though (with scores of 44, 46, 50, 50), and without the scaling above 50 I believe none of us would be top scorers. To achieve 99.95 without one score scaled above 50 would be extremely rare - you'd need five 50's like Natasha Robbins (in addition to her four 50's this year she got a 50 for Legal in 2007...and I'm still not sure if she's a top scorer so I didn't include her in the four names above).

A point to be made though is that the scaling for Specialist is fair - it is a difficult subject that can somewhat be seen as pre-first year maths (and anyway, this year its scaling was not too much higher than that for Methods). I'm not sure what justifies the scaling for Latin {(30)[47]} and Classical Greek {(30)[46]} though. The 'government policy' is in place to encourage the study of modern LOTEs, not outdated ones!

Yes I agree that specialist scaling is fair, it is really a much higher level than Methods and deserves to be recognized as such by scaling above 50 (I personally hope we go back to the 50--> 55 days next year). But for the ancient languages, I think it's just the difficulty of the languages that creates that scaling level.  I know a couple of people who tried to take Latin as an ENTER booster but just dropped out. People that score well in it either need to be born into a Latin or Classical-Greek speaking family (that would be interesting) or be prepared to put in a lot of hard work, and if they are able to put that hard work they probably carry that work ethic into other subjects. That's just my theory as to why people that get 30s in Latin are adjudged to need so much scaling.
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Re: Top Scorers' Names/SS Compilation
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2009, 04:07:34 am »


   ^heh, I don't imagine there are many Latin speaking families, [though catholics who attend mass in Latin might have some advantage.] Scaling results from the difficulty of the competition, [although, that's indirectly affected by the difficulty of the subject], and you can imagine Latin attracting a cohort which is relatively difficult to compete against.