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mypurpleundercracka

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« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2009, 10:05:52 pm »
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1. Flags that have nothing to do with the club SHOULDNT be at game days ie. National flags at domestic league games whereby the flags only serve to incite ethnic tension.
2. Ethnics arent ruining the game because the FFA already got rid of the NSL.
3. I'd much rather have the system we have in place now where we have a RELATIVLELY strong domestic league thats run professionaly than the farce that was the NSL where it wasn't South Melbourne Vs Melbourne Knights; it was Greece Vs Croatia.
4. Goeff Lord has invested millions into the club. It's fair to say he'd want a return on investment. Wouldn't you?
5. Fans who ruin the game day experience for others with violent and inappropriate behavour ARE pieces of shit and ARENT true supporters and should get fucked.

I see the point your making but flags are an important part of the clubs heritage. As for the violence, your right it comes from idiots who arent true fans, though this idiotic behavior is only carried out by a minority. I just hate the way former NSL clubs such are treated after all they've done for the game in this country. Where would players like Viduka, Culina, Bresciano, etc. be if these clubs didn't exist?

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« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2009, 10:34:54 pm »
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But a clubs heritage (ie. the general composition of its senior squad and fan base) shouldn't be the the face of any club. It serves to allienate the majority of potential new fans and thats one of the reasons why the A-league is doing so much better in terms of spectator interest than the NSL. Basically if you weren't of one of the heritages of the NSL clubs you basically didn't have a club to follow. It's not good for the game.

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« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2009, 11:01:13 pm »
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1. Flags that have nothing to do with the club SHOULDNT be at game days ie. National flags at domestic league games whereby the flags only serve to incite ethnic tension.
2. Ethnics arent ruining the game because the FFA already got rid of the NSL.
3. I'd much rather have the system we have in place now where we have a RELATIVLELY strong domestic league thats run professionaly than the farce that was the NSL where it wasn't South Melbourne Vs Melbourne Knights; it was Greece Vs Croatia.
4. Goeff Lord has invested millions into the club. It's fair to say he'd want a return on investment. Wouldn't you?
5. Fans who ruin the game day experience for others with violent and inappropriate behavour ARE pieces of shit and ARENT true supporters and should get fucked.

so melbourne victory sign two costa ricans. Carlos Hernandez and Jose Lopez. I want to bring my costa rican flag to show them that we are welcoming them. I am CLEARLY inciting ethnic tension.

-the ethnic comment above was referring to the media, police's and FFA's reactions towards football fans, and the way they support.

-Your memory must be extremely short, some of the best quality of football this country has ever seen was in the NSL. Of course you and those around would be unaware of that. Old soccer is bad. All that ever happened in the NSL was riots. They could never finish a game.

Please do not forget that superstars of this country like Culina and Viduka started playing in the NSL. Its a shame that you don't realise that this "farce" ran for 30 years. Doing extremely well for a league that wasn't run professionally.

-You mention Geoff Lord investing millions to the club. Geoff Lord would have never watched a game of soccer in his life. He grew up livng and breathing AFL. How can someone that has no idea of the culture behind the sport get involved the way he has?

-Now my favourite bit
I am one of these pieces of shit you mention above. I love this city and my team to death. I spend a substancial part of my life around football and my mates ive met through the football and the "terraces" supporting this team. When an opposition fan gives it to me, I give it back. I will not take their shit.

 In this sport passion runs deep through the veins. In AFL its ok to be friends with the "enemy." Carlton and Collingwood fans go together to games to watch their teams. They give each other hi 5's when each team scores. Fuck that, thats not passion. That's not staying true to your club.

I do not understand the culture of it. AFL cheersquads sing songs about hating the enemy yet when one enters their area they let them sit down and even invite them for a drink post game.

if thats how you want to support, go ahead support. But remember when your on your arse one day, remember its the pieces of shit that will probably have your back

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« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2009, 11:08:27 pm »
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"I invite you to name me one top level football league in the world where finishing on top of the regular season ladder isn't the greatest achievement you can receive."

  I think in Brazil [and possibly elsewhere in South America] the league and knockout competition are connected, as with A-League and AFL.

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« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2009, 11:19:30 pm »
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The players in the NSL have nothing to do with the way that the league was run. Why do you think that the NSL is now defunct? Because it was run well?

Passion and violence don't have to be linked.  It's a fucken sport for christ sake. People like you don't deserve to be a fan of Melbourne Victory or Australian football as a whole. You are the type of people who are dragging football down in this country.

I'm all for having people with a wealth of football knowledge and experience running football in this country and supporting it.
But condoning 'giving it back' to opponents just shows you're MORE INTERESTED IN YOUR OWN INTERESTS THAN YOUR CLUBS!

If you give a shit about football as a whole you will go and watch a fucken game of football. Not go to rip flares and be a sikkent and throw chairs at Adelaide United fans.
If you go and are a part of those sorts of things your obviously far more interested in your own agenda and  objectives you wish to achieve at a football match than the objects of the club that you believe you so desperately care about.


mypurpleundercracka

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« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2009, 11:45:42 pm »
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But a clubs heritage (ie. the general composition of its senior squad and fan base) shouldn't be the the face of any club. It serves to allienate the majority of potential new fans and thats one of the reasons why the A-league is doing so much better in terms of spectator interest than the NSL. Basically if you weren't of one of the heritages of the NSL clubs you basically didn't have a club to follow. It's not good for the game.

But sometimes clubs are formed by people who themselves have been alienated by the majority. Take for example Celtic F.C in Scotland, it was formed in the 1800's by Irish Catholic immigrants who at the time were treated like second-class citizens in Britain. The club to to this day is closely linked with its Irish roots yet it has one of the biggest fan bases in the world consisting of fans (one which is myself) from various races not just Irish backgrounds

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« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2009, 11:48:01 pm »
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Yeh and what's the end result or this formation? One of the most violent and disgusting core fan bases in the world.

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« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2009, 07:44:32 am »
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Yeh and what's the end result or this formation? One of the most violent and disgusting core fan bases in the world.
yet one of the best.

Football and violence go hand in hand. Football history shows that it was a game played and supportered by the lower to middle class. these are what lower to middle class people do.

Get over it costargh. No matter where you go in the world sport will have violence.

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« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2009, 08:56:05 am »
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  ^mmmm, the fans were the reason Colin Kazim-Richards decided to play for Turkey

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« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2009, 03:21:28 pm »
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wow, that is pretty amazing.
I'm surprised that the stadium can withhold all that jumping as well. Do you know the name(s) of the stadiums?
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mypurpleundercracka

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« Reply #41 on: March 05, 2009, 04:17:12 pm »
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Yeh and what's the end result or this formation? One of the most violent and disgusting core fan bases in the world.

Have you ever met a Celtic fan or a member of the "Tartan Army"? In the 2003 UEFA Cup final over 80,000 Celtic fans traveled to Seville, even though Celtic lost not one of their fans stirred trouble nor were any arrested. I am not denying that  there aren't violent elements within the club, but thats why Celtic is one of the leading clubs in Britain and in the world with its programs such as "Bhoys Against Bigotry" which downplay the element of sectarianism.

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« Reply #42 on: March 05, 2009, 05:17:27 pm »
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Best & largest fan group in the world, gfb.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VMdVm9jUYE&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk_9mW4_N2o&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JqbrNRIncw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZZoIRRZGDo&feature=related

I don't see this anywhere else in the world, besides Turkey. Absolutely amazing.
they're nothing but show ponies now. They used to be ok but now they're nothing. Fans cheer for couple seconds and thas it for the whole game. They're bs tbh.

mypurpleundercracka

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« Reply #43 on: March 05, 2009, 07:05:38 pm »
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« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2009, 07:10:59 pm »
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Best & largest fan group in the world, gfb.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VMdVm9jUYE&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk_9mW4_N2o&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JqbrNRIncw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZZoIRRZGDo&feature=related

I don't see this anywhere else in the world, besides Turkey. Absolutely amazing.
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biased much? come to the balkans or italy

Lol, show me something that gives the Fenerbahçe decibel meter a challenge mate.

The only good fan group(s) in the Balkans is Delije (Partizan) & also Gate 13 (Panathinaikos (Greece)). Also, Italy lost its vocal potential due to industrialising football.

Say NO to industrialised football, it just ruins the whole purpose of football!. The passion & love of fans (vocally) is what gives the team morale. Vocal fans are considered to be the "12th player" in Turkey.
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