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Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => University of Melbourne => Topic started by: Stick on October 18, 2014, 09:08:07 am
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So my Italian breadth journey this year has been great, but unfortunately coming to a close. I've been told Italian 5 and 6 is just too demanding to manage alongside subjects like Molecular and Cellular Biomedicine and Human Structure and Function, and takes on a very academic and literary focus, which I'm not terribly interested in. I've got semester 1 covered for next year (Genetics, Health and Society) but I've had a pretty good look in the handbook this morning and nothing's really taking my fancy in regards to a level 2 semester 2 breadth subject. Any recommendations? I don't mind a bit of writing but I'm not terribly keen on a subject where the vast majority of assessment is based on high-weighted and lengthy essays. I'm probably looking for something with a bit less of a workload compared to Italian 3 and 4 as well. The only ones that look a bit interesting are LING20003 Second Language Learning and Teaching, MUSI20150 Music and Health and UNIB20018 Going Places - Travelling Smarter (but I'm not really sure - all seem to have quite a high weighting towards essay writing).
It's probably worth also asking if it necessarily "matters" which level of breadth I take? If I choose to do a level 1 or level 3 breadth subject next year, is there any particular consequence to that? Since there might be confusion, I registered in the level 1 versions of Italian 3 and 4, so I've eaten up two out of the three potential level 1 breadths this year.
I was also considering starting French, but I can't do that as a breadth now can I, since you can't study the introductory subjects at level 2?
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Have you considered doing two selectives in Semester 2 instead of a selective and breadth? Two selectives in one semester + HSF is quite manageable from my experience.
My friends are doing Music and Health at the moment and it seems they have to create their own playlist of songs for different situations (eg exercising) and how it would make them feel. Seems a bit dry though.
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So my Italian breadth journey this year has been great, but unfortunately coming to a close. I've been told Italian 5 and 6 is just too demanding to manage alongside subjects like Molecular and Cellular Biomedicine and Human Structure and Function, and takes on a very academic and literary focus, which I'm not terribly interested in. I've got semester 1 covered for next year (Genetics, Health and Society) but I've had a pretty good look in the handbook this morning and nothing's really taking my fancy in regards to a level 2 semester 2 breadth subject. Any recommendations? I don't mind a bit of writing but I'm not terribly keen on a subject where the vast majority of assessment is based on high-weighted and lengthy essays. I'm probably looking for something with a bit less of a workload compared to Italian 3 and 4 as well. The only ones that look a bit interesting are LING20003 Second Language Learning and Teaching, MUSI20150 Music and Health and UNIB20018 Going Places - Travelling Smarter (but I'm not really sure - all seem to have quite a high weighting towards essay writing).
It's probably worth also asking if it necessarily "matters" which level of breadth I take? If I choose to do a level 1 or level 3 breadth subject next year, is there any particular consequence to that? Since there might be confusion, I registered in the level 1 versions of Italian 3 and 4, so I've eaten up two out of the three potential level 1 breadths this year.
I was also considering starting French, but I can't do that as a breadth now can I, since you can't study the introductory subjects at level 2?
What i did was a summer breadth at the start of this year as well as a winter breadth. This means i didnt have to do a breadth this semester and I am not doing one next semester either. My main motivation was so I would have more time to study for the Sept and March GAMSATs and i must say it is definitely worth it. Even once the Sept GAMSAT was over I have had a lot more time to spend on HSF which has helped a lot. Plus the summer and winter breadths are quite easy if you pick the right ones and you will most likely H1 them. Just a suggestion b/c I am assuming you are aiming for med?
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I was also considering starting French, but I can't do that as a breadth now can I, since you can't study the introductory subjects at level 2?
If you took ITAL2000_ then you can still do French as a level 1. I'd recommend Spanish though. With an Italian background, that'll be as a easy as pie.
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I'm looking at school experience as breadth, i'm not sure if you'll qualify for the language stream (but you'll surely have other options in maths/sci) and i know the workload isn't nothing but it's an option!
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If you took ITAL2000_ then you can still do French as a level 1. I'd recommend Spanish though. With an Italian background, that'll be as a easy as pie.
As I said in my first post, unfortunately my Italian codes were level 1. :(
This subject doesn't look too bad: https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/POPH30002
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but I've had a pretty good look in the handbook this morning and nothing's really taking my fancy in regards to a level 2 semester 2 breadth subject. Any recommendations? I don't mind a bit of writing but I'm not terribly keen on a subject where the vast majority of assessment is based on high-weighted and lengthy essays
It's probably worth also asking if it necessarily "matters" which level of breadth I take? If I choose to do a level 1 or level 3 breadth subject next year, is there any particular consequence to that? Since there might be confusion, I registered in the level 1 versions of Italian 3 and 4, so I've eaten up two out of the three potential level 1 breadths this year.
I was also considering starting French, but I can't do that as a breadth now can I, since you can't study the introductory subjects at level 2?
LIVING LONGER!!!!!!!
Best subject ever. It's practically a free 20% for blogs and there's also a % of marks allocated to tutorial participation (I think I got something like 12/15).
See my subject review on it: Re: University of Melbourne - Subject Reviews & Ratings
BUT I've also heard good things about AUSLAN and Visual Communication (a winter subject), if you want to reduce the load for semester 2 2015.
.This subject doesn't look too bad: https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/POPH30002
It looks quite demanding for a breadth subject, it has both an end of semester exam and an end of semester essay.
IMO it would be easier to choose a subject that has just an exam or just an end of semester essay.
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Do people actually take these subjects seriously? (Spend time studying, writing notes, stressing about assessment, etc.)
Or is it kinda like art and religion class in high school where you don't do anything outside of class?
I don't think they take it quite seriously, no. To be honest I would rather spend $700 on a more worthwhile subject.
What i did was a summer breadth at the start of this year as well as a winter breadth. This means i didnt have to do a breadth this semester and I am not doing one next semester either. My main motivation was so I would have more time to study for the Sept and March GAMSATs and i must say it is definitely worth it. Even once the Sept GAMSAT was over I have had a lot more time to spend on HSF which has helped a lot. Plus the summer and winter breadths are quite easy if you pick the right ones and you will most likely H1 them. Just a suggestion b/c I am assuming you are aiming for med?
He's already a Chancellor's Scholar though, so it probably wouldn't be a big deal for him anyway. I do agree with doing a summer and winter subject though unless you're planning to travel or do other stuff during the holidays. Better than being stuck at home with nothing to do!
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Do people actually take these subjects seriously? (Spend time studying, writing notes, stressing about assessment, etc.)
Or is it kinda like art and religion class in high school where you don't do anything outside of class?
And I've used up both my breadths on Finance 1 and Microeconomics and I heard Business Finance and Macroeconomics are actually really hard, anyone got a suggestion for a business related level 2 breadth that's not too taxing?
Business Negotiations is a subject which comes to mind. It's an intensive subject during July so you can get it over and done with within the first few weeks of semester 2. There are some reviews of it in the subject review page. Other than that, you can also do Inter Micro, which is supposedly on a similar difficulty of Intro Micro.
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What breadths have you done in first/second year Shenz0r?
And what summer subject do you plan on doing/what have you done?
First year I did Intercultural Communications (lvl 1) and Body, Mind and Medicine (lvl 2).
Second year I only did Genetics, Health and Society (lvl 2) and I'm doing two selectives (Pharmacology and Microbes) in second semester.
In summer I'm going to do Finance 1 and then probably Market Negotiations in Winter.
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LIVING LONGER!!!!!!!
Best subject ever. It's practically a free 20% for blogs and there's also a % of marks allocated to tutorial participation (I think I got something like 12/15).
See my subject review on it: Re: University of Melbourne - Subject Reviews & Ratings
BUT I've also heard good things about AUSLAN and Visual Communication (a winter subject), if you want to reduce the load for semester 2 2015.
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It looks quite demanding for a breadth subject, it has both an end of semester exam and an end of semester essay.
IMO it would be easier to choose a subject that has just an exam or just an end of semester essay.
Living longer isn't available anymore it seems. ;( And I think you're right about POPH30002, I think I got caught up in it since it seems like UNIB20007.
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Living longer isn't available anymore it seems. ;( And I think you're right about POPH30002, I think I got caught up in it since it seems like UNIB20007.
R.I.P Living longer <3. Definitely in the top 3 of my favourite university subjects.
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Not relevant but
R.I.P Living longer
Oh the irony
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Not relevant but
Oh the irony
oh my god ahahahahaha
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R.I.P Living longer <3. Definitely in the top 3 of my favourite university subjects.
They got rid of intensive Spanish too, which was by far my favourite (if anyone hasn't noticed) :(
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Living longer isn't available anymore it seems. ;( And I think you're right about POPH30002, I think I got caught up in it since it seems like UNIB20007.
Whoa what? why'd they get rid of it?
i think the subject will still be available because we are getting emailed to do the subject experience survey
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Whoa what? why'd they get rid of it?
i think the subject will still be available because we are getting emailed to do the subject experience survey
They could just be doing that if the subject is brought back later on in the future.
I remember doing a SES for "vision: how the eye sees the world", but it hasn't run since the year I took it :(
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They could just be doing that if the subject is brought back later on in the future.
I remember doing a SES for "vision: how the eye sees the world", but it hasn't run since the year I took it :(
It's also important for the teaching staff (promotions etc can be based on SES surveys.)
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oh shit, time to demote some lecturers
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It's also important for the teaching staff (promotions etc can be based on SES surveys.)
They should tell us this when SES season rolls around, I'm sure a LOT more angry students would participate ;)
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I'm becoming fairly certain this is the subject I'm going to take for breadth: https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/UNIB30004
I just thought I'd ask if anyone has done this subject or knows someone who has and could provide me with a little more insight (particularly what the "computer based exercises" are). Thanks. :)
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They should tell us this when SES season rolls around, I'm sure a LOT more angry students would participate ;)
oh shit, time to demote some lecturers
I'm pretty sure that's exactly why they don't tell students ;)
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Sex Ed: Advanced
Well, kind of, but it seems to tie in a fair bit with the reproduction parts covered in BIOL10002, which was my favourite part of the subject.
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Well, kind of, but it seems to tie in a fair bit with the reproduction parts covered in BIOL10002, which was my favourite part of the subject.
If it's anything like BIOL30001, I would advise against it.
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If it's anything like BIOL30001, I would advise against it.
A few people have said not to do reproductive phys. What is so bad about it?
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If it's anything like BIOL30001, I would advise against it.
Well there doesn't seem to be a strong physiological focus to the subject, so hopefully it will be OK.
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A few people have said not to do reproductive phys. What is so bad about it?
Can't go into any detail now as I have a test tomorrow, but i'll be writing a subject review on it.
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I'm becoming fairly certain this is the subject I'm going to take for breadth: https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/UNIB30004
I just thought I'd ask if anyone has done this subject or knows someone who has and could provide me with a little more insight (particularly what the "computer based exercises" are). Thanks. :)
Apparently it starts off OK, but then gets pretty shit. Not well organised either I've heard.
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>_< Back to the drawing board XD.
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Selectives. Do them. (Y)
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Hahaha I may not have any other choice by the looks of things.
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I know this discussion is old now but I happened to notice that Living Longer: A Global Diagnosis is now available in the handbook. They must still be making changes, by the looks of things. :)
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I know this discussion is old now but I happened to notice that Living Longer: A Global Diagnosis is now available in the handbook. They must still be making changes, by the looks of things. :)
This has made my day.
If you do the subject, hopefully you get Richard as a tutor.
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This has made my day.
If you do the subject, hopefully you get Richard as a tutor.
Oh Richard!! :D
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Here is my list of breadth subjects I did at uni, with a recommendation or yes/no whether I'd encourage them.
1. Sports Coaching - YES, easiest thing I've done since I was about 13 years old haha
2. Sport & Education in Australian Society - I'd give it a half yes/half no, it was a little boring, but quite easy to do well in
3. Food for a Healthy Planet - NO, worst subject I've done at uni (apart from physics haha)
4. Catastrophes that Changed Society - Yes
5. Going Places, Travelling Smarter - YES, quite easy to do well in, and very fun/interesting subject
6. Deafness & Communication - YES, easy/fun subject (lets hope I don't jinx myself for my mark haha)
Hope that gives Stick, and a few others ideas for breath subjects during their degree :)
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Oh Richard!! :D
Funniest guy.
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3. Food for a Healthy Planet - NO, worst subject I've done at uni (apart from physics haha)
What's bad about Food for a Healthy Planet?
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Here is my list of breadth subjects I did at uni, with a recommendation or yes/no whether I'd encourage them.
1. Sports Coaching - YES, easiest thing I've done since I was about 13 years old haha
2. Sport & Education in Australian Society - I'd give it a half yes/half no, it was a little boring, but quite easy to do well in
3. Food for a Healthy Planet - NO, worst subject I've done at uni (apart from physics haha)
4. Catastrophes that Changed Society - Yes
5. Going Places, Travelling Smarter - YES, quite easy to do well in, and very fun/interesting subject
6. Deafness & Communication - YES, easy/fun subject (lets hope I don't jinx myself for my mark haha)
Hope that gives Stick, and a few others ideas for breath subjects during their degree :)
Thank you so much!!! Really really appreciated. :)
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What's bad about Food for a Healthy Planet?
The content was REALLY boring, especially the stuff about renewable food. Sorry I'm not much of a greenie haha...I care about the environment, but don't want to learn about it in detail.
Also, the mid sem and exam were pretty hard, even though you get a cheat sheet.
Fair enough if you did it and enjoyed it. Just giving it my personal account. From what I've heard, many people feel the same way as me :)
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The content was REALLY boring, especially the stuff about renewable food. Sorry I'm not much of a greenie haha...I care about the environment, but don't want to learn about it in detail.
Also, the mid sem and exam were pretty hard, even though you get a cheat sheet.
Fair enough if you did it and enjoyed it. Just giving it my personal account. From what I've heard, many people feel the same way as me :)
Oh I see, thanks for letting me know.
I haven't actually studied it yet, but I was considering it for next year. :)
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I haven't actually studied it yet, but I was considering it for next year. :)
Hint: Living Longer :D
They should pay me for advertising this subject as much as I do.
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Hint: Living Longer :D
They should pay me for advertising this subject as much as I do.
Cheers! I shall look into it at the earliest opportunity.
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The content was REALLY boring, especially the stuff about renewable food. Sorry I'm not much of a greenie haha...I care about the environment, but don't want to learn about it in detail.
Also, the mid sem and exam were pretty hard, even though you get a cheat sheet.
Fair enough if you did it and enjoyed it. Just giving it my personal account. From what I've heard, many people feel the same way as me :)
I found that the content was easy enough to follow but what makes the subject difficult is they give you no indication of how you should be answering questions which is extremely frustrating
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I found that the content was easy enough to follow but what makes the subject difficult is they give you no indication of how you should be answering questions which is extremely frustrating
Actually yes, that is a very good point, and I found that was of the most frustrating aspects of the course.
Hit the nail right on the head with that point! ;D
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Do not do finance as breadth.
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Do not do finance as breadth.
It is supposedly quite easy in Summer and in Semester 1, it's just that Jordan sets bad exams for Semester 2, so please nobody do Finance 1 in Sem 2.
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Hey there, I have a problem. I filled my "Breadth Subjects levels 1,2,3" all with level 2 breadths. Am I allowed to put level 1 breadths into the "breadth subject levels 2,3"?
If not can the student centre re jumble it for me?
Thanks in advance.
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Hey there, I have a problem. I filled my "Breadth Subjects levels 1,2,3" all with level 2 breadths. Am I allowed to put level 1 breadths into the "breadth subject levels 2,3"?
If not can the student centre re jumble it for me?
Thanks in advance.
I've got a similar issue and I think your student centre will be able to definitely sort that out for you :)
For the purpose of reenrolment, just enrol in a random breadth to fill in the slot - then get it changed around at your student centre :)
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I've got a similar issue and I think your student centre will be able to definitely sort that out for you :)
For the purpose of reenrolment, just enrol in a random breadth to fill in the slot - then get it changed around at your student centre :)
I've had to do it before. You can do it online, (email 13MELB,) but it will take a while at this time of year.
Or you can go in and they'll do it in five seconds.
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Seeing this subject made me so happy: https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/EURO10002
If only it wasn't essay based... even then I'm still considering taking it hahaha
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How about this ?
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/MGMT20011
It's an intensive during the winter break.
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How about this ?
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/MGMT20011
It's an intensive during the winter break.
I did the subject this year in July. It was a very interesting subject, the workshop/tutorials had pretty engaging exercises and role plays.
They did change the assessment format for the subject for next year. Originally it was a take home exam of 50 MC questions and 6 short answer and it was, but now its an exam. I guess the take home was too easy haha.
The content itself isn't difficult, but there are quite a few concepts/important details that will need to be memorised.
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I'm concerned that they'll make the subject extraordinarily harder , because the first cohort did really well in it. Are there any new breadth subjects in 2015?
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Here is my list of breadth subjects I did at uni, with a recommendation or yes/no whether I'd encourage them.
1. Sports Coaching - YES, easiest thing I've done since I was about 13 years old haha
2. Sport & Education in Australian Society - I'd give it a half yes/half no, it was a little boring, but quite easy to do well in
3. Food for a Healthy Planet - NO, worst subject I've done at uni (apart from physics haha)
4. Catastrophes that Changed Society - Yes
5. Going Places, Travelling Smarter - YES, quite easy to do well in, and very fun/interesting subject
6. Deafness & Communication - YES, easy/fun subject (lets hope I don't jinx myself for my mark haha)
Hope that gives Stick, and a few others ideas for breath subjects during their degree :)
Did you literally just pick the easiest breadth subjects you could find?