Melbourne Model Med

[roly182]

Hey. I was told at accademic advice day that melb is going to change the requirements of the GAMSAT and only take into account sections 1 and 2 as biomed and science graduates already have all of the scientific knowledge required for med. Also, they said that there were 160 students with enters with or over 99.00 and 30 with or over 99.90 and these fall well below the amount of places for Med so the 'guaranteed' places are likely to hold. Also, i was told that for full fee med students, if they average at or over 75% throughout the year, they are automatically transferred into a CSP place. Anyone else heard about this?? And how hard is it to attain a 75% average throughout first year med.

[kj_]

Heard from who and where on academic advice day?

From reading that, all I can think of is "bs" - apart from changing the GAMSAT, I really doubt 30 of the 60 or so people with 99.90+ are in the Biomedicine course.
Also, reading on various unimelb pages & contacting multiple informed people, the limiting factor of a "guaranteed" place is the availability. Thus, it is highly unlikely for a full fee medicine place to be converted to a CSP place. (Not only this, but 75% sounds way too low. It's 75% average if you have 99.90+ and want a 'guaranteed' place.) So, even if there are 30 people with 99.90+ doing Biomedicine - this will probably mean not all the 99.90's will be guaranteed a place.

But all in all - I'm curious to who you've heard this information from.

[roly182]

I cant remember her name but i talked to her at the 'biomedicine enrolment advice session' in the med building and she's responsible for selecting applicants for physio. Thats all i know! And its not 30 students over 99.90 in biomed, its 30 over 99.90 at melbourne uni this year. Sorry i should have made that clearer. I am a little sceptical too about the transfer to CSP. I know that currently Melbourne does it for undergrad degrees with a 75 average but not too sure about there graduate programs.  I'm waiting a call back from the Uni to confirm this so i'll let you know. Also, does anyone know if the biomed subjects are marked on a bell curve or not?

[mullums1]

I cant remember her name but i talked to her at the 'biomedicine enrolment advice session' in the med building and she's responsible for selecting applicants for physio. Thats all i know! And its not 30 students over 99.90 in biomed, its 30 over 99.90 at melbourne uni this year. Sorry i should have made that clearer. I am a little sceptical too about the transfer to CSP. I know that currently Melbourne does it for undergrad degrees with a 75 average but not too sure about there graduate programs.  I'm waiting a call back from the Uni to confirm this so i'll let you know. Also, does anyone know if the biomed subjects are marked on a bell curve or not?

I highly doubt they will let you into CSP if you maintain over 75 (you got over 99+ yeh?). The rule clearly states its full fee for between 99.00 - 99.85 only.

And what do you mean by bell curve?

[shinny]

I agree with the others and it sounds like rubbish to me. A verbal 'confirmation' means nothing and it's not worth gambling your career on if you have other secure options. If these aren't available to you, then I guess you'll just have to take the risk.

[roly182]

I think everyone is misunderstanding me. I'm saying the transfer to CSP is taking place within the medicine course, after first year medicine, providing you get a 75% average in first year med. "Those who get 99.90-99.95 are likely to be transferred to CSP places if they maintain the necessary average" - i'm not talking about transferring from biomed or scince to med, i'm talking about transfering from med full fee to med CSP. At the moment at melbourne for all courses they transfer full fee students into CSP if they get over 75%..or so i am told.

[shinny]

Nah I understood you on that, but I'm just saying that unless written confirmation comes out, this is pretty meaningless as UoM can just detract it later and just do the whole 'o whut?' sort of thing to you and you've really got nothing to back you up.

[NE2000]

Assuming the government doesn't revoke all postgrad CSP places by then.

Is that a possibility?

[shinny]

Assuming the government doesn't revoke all postgrad CSP places by then.

Why would they do that? They removed full-fee from under-graduate degrees, so I don't see why they'd do the reverse for post-graduate.

[monokekie]

first of all, sorry about hijacking this thread..

Just wondering, if one did vce in 2009 and decide to take a leave of absence for one year.. reckon the guaranteed pathway will still be available?

considering that the pathway will nolonger be available to students who complete their year 12 in 2010..

[vexx]

first of all, sorry about hijacking this thread..

Just wondering, if one did vce in 2009 and decide to take a leave of absence for one year.. reckon the guaranteed pathway will still be available?

considering that the pathway will nolonger be available to students who complete their year 12 in 2010..

yes the guaranteed for full-fee has it's last intake for 2010, so if you completed in 09 you are eligble if you make the requirements and study at melb, etc. regardless of gapyears.

[Gloamglozer]

Nah I understood you on that, but I'm just saying that unless written confirmation comes out, this is pretty meaningless as UoM can just detract it later and just do the whole 'o whut?' sort of thing to you and you've really got nothing to back you up.

Yes, definitely listen to shinny on this one.  As a UoM student, I can tell you that the verbal communication means nothing from anyone at the uni, even the staff.  Unless it's printed/written on paper, it means nothing at UoM.  I know from past (not so pleasant) experience.

[Edmund]

That's total rubbish, you can't transfer from a full fee to CSP in a med course. Haven't heard it could be done at other unis either. Also, you can't transfer from a CSP to full fee either

[Russ]

Old thread but on the GAMSAT thing...

Hey. I was told at accademic advice day that melb is going to change the requirements of the GAMSAT and only take into account sections 1 and 2 as biomed and science graduates already have all of the scientific knowledge required for med.

Seriously doubt that (although i wish they would). I know they don't use the overall score provided by ACER though, they care about your individual section marks.

[Boots]

first of all, sorry about hijacking this thread..

Just wondering, if one did vce in 2009 and decide to take a leave of absence for one year.. reckon the guaranteed pathway will still be available?

considering that the pathway will nolonger be available to students who complete their year 12 in 2010..

Wowww. Wait a second. Are you saying that the melb Uni will not do the guranteed pathway for ppl finsihing yr 12 in 2010. Is there any confirmation on this? Why are they doing this?