free laptops for muslim students [offtopic]

[Abdi]

The matter of fact here  Chavi, is that you've gone too far and it would be in the best interest of a mojority that you quit acting like a child and grow up. To be quite frank, you're really not doing anything by providing evidence even if you think you are.


okay you've provided evidence and all, what more do you want? you can call HIA  a terrorist organisation and what not, but really thats your decision and you've made it clear to everyone here you don't support them in any way whatsoever. Now that you've done that let it go, cause you're not changing our minds about it!

[Lukman]

and no im not taking part in this debate. Were all a bunch of kids behind our computer screens acting it tough. The internet is made full of bs, i mean you can probably link me to Hamas aswell .. we both have the letters m and a ? that would probably be enough evidence true?
Quit yappin about insignificant information, let the real people deal with it. What we say here isn't going to change anything. VCE is the real terrorist, the real hamas. =="

Whilst I readily agree that VCE is a painful, painful experience, it's interesting to note how you trivialize oppression and terrorism by comparing HAMAS to an examination assessment authority.
Stand up to the accusations rather than diverting the attention away in all manners possible.

Stand up to the accusations? Can you explain what exactly you meant by that?

[Chavi]

When was this ever about race or religion?

The only posts resorting to religion or race to back claims are yours:

Do not turn this into a race.v.race or religion.v.religion debate

quick reply with a quick question? do you have something against muslims? :S

[2317]

and no im not taking part in this debate. Were all a bunch of kids behind our computer screens acting it tough. The internet is made full of bs, i mean you can probably link me to Hamas aswell .. we both have the letters m and a ? that would probably be enough evidence true?
Quit yappin about insignificant information, let the real people deal with it. What we say here isn't going to change anything. VCE is the real terrorist, the real hamas. =="

Whilst I readily agree that VCE is a painful, painful experience, it's interesting to note how you trivialize oppression and terrorism by comparing HAMAS to an examination assessment authority.
Stand up to the accusations rather than diverting the attention away in all manners possible.

Can you please just lighten up? Geez it was a fucking joke.

[Chavi]

The matter of fact here  Chavi, is that you've gone too far and it would be in the best interest of a mojority that you quit acting like a child and grow up. To be quite frank, you're really not doing anything by providing evidence even if you think you are.


okay you've provided evidence and all, what more do you want? you can call HIA  a terrorist organisation and what not, but really thats your decision and you've made it clear to everyone here you don't support them in any way whatsoever. Now that you've done that let it go, cause you're not changing our minds about it!

So despite the evidence, you will continue to support HAI?

[Yitzi_K]

seriously, merits to the inhumane blockade?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/apr/16/israel

Israel's policy was summed up by Dov Weisglass, an adviser to Ehud Olmert, the Israeli Prime Minister, earlier this year. 'The idea is to put the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger,' he said. The hunger pangs are supposed to encourage the Palestinians to force Hamas to change its attitude towards Israel or force Hamas out of government.

The merits of the perfectly legal, justified and humane blockade are that the civilian residents of southern Israel are not bombarded by advanced foreign-made missiles on a daily basis. As it is, due to the blockade, Hamas is only able to rain down thousands of crude home-made rockets. Were it for not for the blockade, I shudder to think what the region would be like.

And even if that means that a few Gazans who voted Hamas into power out of their own choosing have to go hungry, then I'm still all for it. Having said that, no Gazans are starving, the warehouses and markets are literally overflowing with food, lots of it provided by Israel despite it being an enemy entity which Israel has completely withdrawn from.

[Abdi]

The matter of fact here  Chavi, is that you've gone too far and it would be in the best interest of a mojority that you quit acting like a child and grow up. To be quite frank, you're really not doing anything by providing evidence even if you think you are.


okay you've provided evidence and all, what more do you want? you can call HIA  a terrorist organisation and what not, but really thats your decision and you've made it clear to everyone here you don't support them in any way whatsoever. Now that you've done that let it go, cause you're not changing our minds about it!

So despite the evidence, you will continue to support HAI?

despite the false evidence?  yes I glady would!

[Yitzi_K]

The matter of fact here  Chavi, is that you've gone too far and it would be in the best interest of a mojority that you quit acting like a child and grow up. To be quite frank, you're really not doing anything by providing evidence even if you think you are.


okay you've provided evidence and all, what more do you want? you can call HIA  a terrorist organisation and what not, but really thats your decision and you've made it clear to everyone here you don't support them in any way whatsoever. Now that you've done that let it go, cause you're not changing our minds about it!

LOL Chavi is the one acting like a child? Have you even read this discussion?

[Yitzi_K]

The matter of fact here  Chavi, is that you've gone too far and it would be in the best interest of a mojority that you quit acting like a child and grow up. To be quite frank, you're really not doing anything by providing evidence even if you think you are.


okay you've provided evidence and all, what more do you want? you can call HIA  a terrorist organisation and what not, but really thats your decision and you've made it clear to everyone here you don't support them in any way whatsoever. Now that you've done that let it go, cause you're not changing our minds about it!

So despite the evidence, you will continue to support HAI?

despite the false evidence?  yes I glady would!

Care to share how you know so very definitively that it's all false? And also why you would still support them when there is even the slightest shadow of doubt as to their supposedly pure actions, which clearly there is?

[Lukman]

When was this ever about race or religion?

The only posts resorting to religion or race to back are claims are yours:

Do not turn this into a race.v.race or religion.v.religion debate

quick reply with a quick question? do you have something against muslims? :S

Hey chavi it was just a question? What exactly are you trying to prove or get out of this?

[bomb]

I still don't understand how people are claiming this evidence is false. Based on WHAT?
They're giving away free laptops so they must be good? VS Actual evidence.

[Abdi]

The matter of fact here  Chavi, is that you've gone too far and it would be in the best interest of a mojority that you quit acting like a child and grow up. To be quite frank, you're really not doing anything by providing evidence even if you think you are.


okay you've provided evidence and all, what more do you want? you can call HIA  a terrorist organisation and what not, but really thats your decision and you've made it clear to everyone here you don't support them in any way whatsoever. Now that you've done that let it go, cause you're not changing our minds about it!

So despite the evidence, you will continue to support HAI?

despite the false evidence?  yes I glady would!

Care to share how you know so very definitively that it's all false? And also why you would still support them when there is even the slightest shadow of doubt as to their supposedly pure actions, which clearly there is?

understand that  not EVERYTHING on the internet is all truth...

you may make it look like you're sourcing evidence and claims of HIA being a terrorist organisation when really it is either false of exaggerated! Nevertheless, If it were to be, Australia would have done something about it a long time ago, After all, they've established anti-terrorism laws haven't they?

[2317]

calm down guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34HgvQlWoA0

[superflya]

seriously, merits to the inhumane blockade?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/apr/16/israel

Israel's policy was summed up by Dov Weisglass, an adviser to Ehud Olmert, the Israeli Prime Minister, earlier this year. 'The idea is to put the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger,' he said. The hunger pangs are supposed to encourage the Palestinians to force Hamas to change its attitude towards Israel or force Hamas out of government.

The merits of the perfectly legal, justified and humane blockade are that the civilian residents of southern Israel are not bombarded by advanced foreign-made missiles on a daily basis. As it is, due to the blockade, Hamas is only able to rain down thousands of crude home-made rockets. Were it for not for the blockade, I shudder to think what the region would be like.

And even if that means that a few Gazans who voted Hamas into power out of their own choosing have to go hungry, then I'm still all for it. Having said that, no Gazans are starving, the warehouses and markets are literally overflowing with food, lots of it provided by Israel despite it being an enemy entity which Israel has completely withdrawn from.

merely a bully-like tactic employed by Isreal who simply can't deal with the fact that Hamas was rightfully voted in by the people.

overflowing wahhh..

http://www.juancole.com/2010/01/world-health-agencies-condemn-israeli.html

[Chavi]

understand that  not EVERYTHING on the internet is all truth...

you may make it look like you're sourcing evidence and claims of HIA being a terrorist organisation when really it is either false of exaggerated! Nevertheless, If it were to be, Australia would have done something about it a long time ago, After all, they've established anti-terrorism laws haven't they?

Classic argument from fallacy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy

You're argument:

• HAI hasn't been banned in Australia
  but other terror organization have been
  therefore, HAI has no links to terrorism

seriously, merits to the inhumane blockade?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/apr/16/israel

Israel's policy was summed up by Dov Weisglass, an adviser to Ehud Olmert, the Israeli Prime Minister, earlier this year. 'The idea is to put the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger,' he said. The hunger pangs are supposed to encourage the Palestinians to force Hamas to change its attitude towards Israel or force Hamas out of government.

The merits of the perfectly legal, justified and humane blockade are that the civilian residents of southern Israel are not bombarded by advanced foreign-made missiles on a daily basis. As it is, due to the blockade, Hamas is only able to rain down thousands of crude home-made rockets. Were it for not for the blockade, I shudder to think what the region would be like.

And even if that means that a few Gazans who voted Hamas into power out of their own choosing have to go hungry, then I'm still all for it. Having said that, no Gazans are starving, the warehouses and markets are literally overflowing with food, lots of it provided by Israel despite it being an enemy entity which Israel has completely withdrawn from.

merely a bully-like tactic employed by Isreal who simply can't deal with the fact that Hamas was rightfully voted in by the people.

overflowing wahhh..

http://www.juancole.com/2010/01/world-health-agencies-condemn-israeli.html

Why are you changing the topic? Rather than defended HAI, you've resorted to attacking Israel. Perhaps there is nothing to defend?