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[myanacondadont]

hear* but yes, Jthong cracked it

Wait wait wait hahaha someone elaborate, this sounds interesting as

[myanacondadont]

Basically, last semesters assignment was almost exactly the same as this years with the few minor discrepancies. Some people got their hands on last years and used it to help them with their assignment. Basically, the numerical questions were the same (with different values) and the qualitative questions were almost exactly the same. This is only from hearsay btw.

The most egregious case of this was people just copy-pasting the numerical answers from last years without checking to see if it was different this time - so a bunch of groups got the same exact wrong answer that was "coincidentally" the same as last semesters. They're going to face a departmental committee or something.

Then other people were more clever and used the answers to formulate and check their own. JThong said he was going to going through every assignment "word-by-word" to find these people out. Tbh I don't see how he could find proof of cheating by saying "you're assignment is similar to the answers so therefore you must be cheating".

Anyways he offered an ultimatum to these students:

- come forward, apologize and get a 0 for that question
- don't come forward, but if you are found out you will receive a reprimand and a 0 for the entire assignment

Wowweeee that's rough. I do remember someone posting the first assignment here or something, and the theory/proof question was exactly the same as the one I did (1st sem 2015). Interesting though, I hope they don't penalise anyone that did it legit

[auds]

For people who have exam clashes, has anyone heard back from whoever takes care of this stuff yet? I submitted the form ages ago but still nothing - Stop 1 is clueless as well.

Haven't heard back from them either.

[spectroscopy]

Haven't heard back from them either.

i heard back last week saying that my exams had been moved (not a clash, a 3 in 1 day situation)

[auds]

i heard back last week saying that my exams had been moved (not a clash, a 3 in 1 day situation)

What!? I'm in the same situation, 3 in 1 day, and all other second year Biomeds going on exchange have my timetable. I don't know of anyone who's been contacted.

Did they move your exam to another day in exam period or into the special consideration period?

[spectroscopy]

What!? I'm in the same situation, 3 in 1 day, and all other second year Biomeds going on exchange have my timetable. I don't know of anyone who's been contacted.

Did they move your exam to another day in exam period or into the special consideration period?

they never move it to special consideration period, just a different time in the exam period. usually the next available day

[Rod]

Then other people were more clever and used the answers to formulate and check their own. JThong said he was going to going through every assignment "word-by-word" to find these people out. Tbh I don't see how he could find proof of cheating by saying "you're assignment is similar to the answers so therefore you must be cheating".

Oooooooooof, that's so strict. Very ambitious, though. Good luck to him getting through hundreds of assignments word for word.

Maybe JThong will learn from his mistakes and make a different assignment next year . Sounds like a typical over ambitious, super harsh coordinator. Love his name as well.

Interested to know what happens - fill us in!

[auds]

they never move it to special consideration period, just a different time in the exam period. usually the next available day

Right, will just have to wait it out then. Thanks for the heads up.

[Pup]

does anyone here on AN, how to deal with a printer that prints out double images.... I've manually cleaned out the printer head, but the double image is still there

[tashhhaaa]

can subject prereqs be waived for majors? I've changed my mind since the start of the year and I haven't planned out my subjects properly so now my options are veryyyy limited

[Alter]

Hi guys. Yesterday I had a lab test for edda/mast10011 and I'm genuinely certain I failed it (not in a modest sense; I'm not even sure if I answered half the questions). I find this subject extremely difficult and my tutor is pretty useless. I'm not really sure what to do for the subject, but I don't want to end up getting a poor final mark. What can I do before exams, or is it simply too late now?

[Stick]

Hi guys. Yesterday I had a lab test for edda/mast10011 and I'm genuinely certain I failed it (not in a modest sense; I'm not even sure if I answered half the questions). I find this subject extremely difficult and my tutor is pretty useless. I'm not really sure what to do for the subject, but I don't want to end up getting a poor final mark. What can I do before exams, or is it simply too late now?

I struggled heaps until the assignment got released. That bloody assessment forced me to go over the concepts a heap of times and eventually it did all make sense in the end. How did you go on that? If you did well on that but not the lab test, that would suggest to me you just didn't understand the program well.

[Alter]

I did fairly average on the assignments as well, so I don't think it's a case of it being not understanding the lab test solely. I think my problem extends a lot further than that.

[squidgee123]

Hi guys. Yesterday I had a lab test for edda/mast10011 and I'm genuinely certain I failed it (not in a modest sense; I'm not even sure if I answered half the questions). I find this subject extremely difficult and my tutor is pretty useless. I'm not really sure what to do for the subject, but I don't want to end up getting a poor final mark. What can I do before exams, or is it simply too late now?

If it makes you feel any better, I did MAST10010 last year (pretty much the same subject) and barely scraped a 50% for the lab test, but ultimately managed to get a H1 by the end of the semester. The exam is what really counts since its worth 70%. The subject is more about interpretation of data than it is number crunching, so it's not good enough to just memorise equations and know when to use them, but to actually understand the theory behind the statistical tests. In my personal experience, understanding the latter lectures was also dependent on understanding the earlier concepts covered. So I feel there's not much point in going over things like F-tests, ANOVA and so forth if you're not comfortable with fundamentals such as distinguishing between sample and population parameters and estimators, central limit theorem etc. Try going to other tutors during consultation times, or ask other students who you know are doing well in the subject. I also went through a couple practice exams to get a feel for what sort of questions would come up and what things in particular I needed to brush up on. Of course, you can also just google concepts you're not sure about. If I remember right, Khan Academy does a pretty good job of explaining stuff.

Also, remember that it's important to know how to interpret Minitab output for the final exam. You don't need to know the commands or anything like that, but I remember there being 'fill in the blank' type questions for ANOVA tables and such.

[Alter]

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You're a superstar. Thank you very much.

I think I'll need to work my way up from the basics and churn through a lot of practice questions to catch back up. I guess I'm lucky in that the exam isn't until the 22nd.