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[literally lauren]

Genetics in the Media - not too heavy on the science really, but very interesting.

[litaluta]

ecological history of humanity, but its level one

[kaybee94]

yeah i need a level 2 or 3 i think. definitely can't do genetics in the media because i did genes and environment in 1st year!
is ecological history of humanity somewhat interesting..?

[ChickenCh0wM1en]

yeah i need a level 2 or 3 i think. definitely can't do genetics in the media because i did genes and environment in 1st year!
is ecological history of humanity somewhat interesting..?

UNIB30002??

[litaluta]

its an easy subject, medium/low level on scale of interestingness

[MelonBar]

If you have room for a lev 1 breadth Ecological History is a great subject. Easy but still interesting - looks at human origin, why civilizations have failed, disease, agriculture etc. Shotgun approach on different topics that are natural springboards for discussion - real bonus for gamsat sitters (section 2).

[Amity]

Hi all,

So after a few years of browsing this forum, and this section in particular for the last couple of years, I figured it was time I joined the party 

A bit about me: I've just recently finished my second year of a Bachelor of Commerce and intend to major in actuarial studies, and, like the rest of you, I'm interested in doing fairly well   

I look forward to some fun times!

[notveryasian]

Hi all,

So after a few years of browsing this forum, and this section in particular for the last couple of years, I figured it was time I joined the party 

A bit about me: I've just recently finished my second year of a Bachelor of Commerce and intend to major in actuarial studies, and, like the rest of you, I'm interested in doing fairly well   

I look forward to some fun times!

Welcome! I'm sure you'll have an enjoyable time browsing the UoM forum, everyone here is really friendly and helpful.

I noticed your signature says that you're expecting to study until 2016/17, are you doing honours after your undergrad degree?

[Amity]

Welcome! I'm sure you'll have an enjoyable time browsing the UoM forum, everyone here is really friendly and helpful.

I noticed your signature says that you're expecting to study until 2016/17, are you doing honours after your undergrad degree?

Yeah I plan to, you do actuarial right? without honours you can only get 6 of the part 1 exemptions. Having spoken with some people who are working and studying towards their part 3s, getting the last two part 1 exemptions + part 2s through honours helps a lot with reducing your overall study time, and the part 2 content in honours is a lot more practical so that you actually know a bit about what's going on when you start working

[spalvains]

If anyone has summary notes or even just lecture notes for NEUR30003, I would really appreciate it!

I have the slides but don't have Internet at my house if you can wait a week or two I can give them to you, but I'm sure someone else will have them in the meantime.
Also, to the people messaging me / waiting for CEDB/BCMB reviews, they will be up when I get internet (man, you don't realise how much you use internet for until you don't have it)

[notveryasian]

Yeah I plan to, you do actuarial right? without honours you can only get 6 of the part 1 exemptions. Having spoken with some people who are working and studying towards their part 3s, getting the last two part 1 exemptions + part 2s through honours helps a lot with reducing your overall study time, and the part 2 content in honours is a lot more practical so that you actually know a bit about what's going on when you start working

Well I did the Actuarial Studies course for first year, and figured it wasn't for me. Definitely think that Economics/Maths are areas much more suited to my interests.

So does that mean that getting part 1 and 2 exemptions are much more easier to get through undergrad than through the Institute? If so I find that quite interesting.

Also, do you think that doing BusFi/breadths doing summer are a good idea of reducing workload in 2nd/3rd year? My friends in Actuarial are considering this but are unsure if it's worth it.

[Amity]

Well I did the Actuarial Studies course for first year, and figured it wasn't for me. Definitely think that Economics/Maths are areas much more suited to my interests.

So does that mean that getting part 1 and 2 exemptions are much more easier to get through undergrad than through the Institute? If so I find that quite interesting.

Also, do you think that doing BusFi/breadths doing summer are a good idea of reducing workload in 2nd/3rd year? My friends in Actuarial are considering this but are unsure if it's worth it.

Ahh okay fair enough. I actually thought about economics and all my breadths in maths + a diploma of maths for quite a while, but decided to stick with actuarial. Inter Macro would definitely have to be one of my favourite subjects though

I think it's certainly easier from the perspective that you don't have to worry about working a 40 hour week and studying at the same time. Especially if you're working in consulting and get unlucky with some massive deadlines right before your exams (this would be rare though). I'm actually not too sure how the pass rates for external exams compare with exemption rates. It's hard to tell since the required mark to pass the external exams (at least as far as I'm aware)/exemption requirement (at Melbourne) isn't published. I have a feeling that some other unis have fixed requirements for exemptions unlike Melbourne where it only depends on your exam and the difficulty of the exam - that would be nice
Part 2 is actually only taught through the universities in Australia though, and you can do it by distance, so I guess for part 2 it's really a matter of getting exemptions before you start work.

As for summer subjects, that really depends on the individual. I think I would struggle to study when my friends are all on holidays haha. I actually did busfi this semester after having already done financial maths 1 and so found a lot of the course to be very easy. I think it was the third time at uni I've been taught simple interest, so that's something to consider... I think potentially having done one summer/intensive so that you only do three subjects in the first semester of third year would certainly be a bonus, but there's not much point trying to ease the load in 2nd year. Pretty much everyone who could reasonably complete 3rd year gets the exemptions for non-actuarial subjects, so you really only have to worry about FM1/2 in second year.
Most people don't bother as far as I know. I would recommend taking computing/programming subjects, but those go a fair way to increasing your workload rather than reducing it, hence why I'm taking a 3rd year maths unit instead of another programming subject for my last breadth

[notveryasian]

Ahh okay fair enough. I actually thought about economics and all my breadths in maths + a diploma of maths for quite a while, but decided to stick with actuarial. Inter Macro would definitely have to be one of my favourite subjects though

I think it's certainly easier from the perspective that you don't have to worry about working a 40 hour week and studying at the same time. Especially if you're working in consulting and get unlucky with some massive deadlines right before your exams (this would be rare though). I'm actually not too sure how the pass rates for external exams compare with exemption rates. It's hard to tell since the required mark to pass the external exams (at least as far as I'm aware)/exemption requirement (at Melbourne) isn't published. I have a feeling that some other unis have fixed requirements for exemptions unlike Melbourne where it only depends on your exam and the difficulty of the exam - that would be nice
Part 2 is actually only taught through the universities in Australia though, and you can do it by distance, so I guess for part 2 it's really a matter of getting exemptions before you start work.

As for summer subjects, that really depends on the individual. I think I would struggle to study when my friends are all on holidays haha. I actually did busfi this semester after having already done financial maths 1 and so found a lot of the course to be very easy. I think it was the third time at uni I've been taught simple interest, so that's something to consider... I think potentially having done one summer/intensive so that you only do three subjects in the first semester of third year would certainly be a bonus, but there's not much point trying to ease the load in 2nd year. Pretty much everyone who could reasonably complete 3rd year gets the exemptions for non-actuarial subjects, so you really only have to worry about FM1/2 in second year.
Most people don't bother as far as I know. I would recommend taking computing/programming subjects, but those go a fair way to increasing your workload rather than reducing it, hence why I'm taking a 3rd year maths unit instead of another programming subject for my last breadth

Thanks for the reply on summer subjects. I would imagine that programming is quite helpful in the industry, since most work is largely computer-based nowadays, but no doubt that the Uni subjects would increase the amount of study time if taken as breadth.

Which Math subject are you taking as breadth next year? I was told when I was doing the major that our breadths could not be MAST subjects. 

[Amity]

Thanks for the reply on summer subjects. I would imagine that programming is quite helpful in the industry, since most work is largely computer-based nowadays, but no doubt that the Uni subjects would increase the amount of study time if taken as breadth.

Which Math subject are you taking as breadth next year? I was told when I was doing the major that our breadths could not be MAST subjects. 

You just have to do at least two non-math subjects, you do pretty much anything else with the other elective. I'm taking graph theory with a few friends

[Mieow]

Do people normally enter the work-force with a job related to their major right away after getting a B.Biomed/B.Science degree?