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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14805 on: April 23, 2017, 03:24:18 pm »
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Hi,
What is the simplest method to use to sketch sine and cosine graphs with translations?
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Solve the equation for x-intercepts and find average, highest and lowest y values then use general shape to sketch

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Sketch general shape without horizontal translations in a dotted line, then apply horizontal translations and translate all original points
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14806 on: April 23, 2017, 03:28:42 pm »
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How would I go about doing this question?

State the transformations required to map the graph of y = f(x) onto the graph of y = f(x-h)+k. If there is a turning point at (3,5), find all possible values of h and k.
NOTE: f(x) = (x+1)^2(x-1) or x^3 + x^2 - x - 1.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14807 on: April 23, 2017, 05:12:28 pm »
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How would I go about doing this question?

State the transformations required to map the graph of y = f(x) onto the graph of y = f(x-h)+k. If there is a turning point at (3,5), find all possible values of h and k.
NOTE: f(x) = (x+1)^2(x-1) or x^3 + x^2 - x - 1





So x=-1 and x=1/3 are the x-coordinates of the turning points


So, the turning points are (-1,0) and (1/3,-32/27)
So, h=4 and k=5 or h=8/3 and k=167/27

This is what I got, but it might be wrong. Someone should correct me if I made a mistake.

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14808 on: April 23, 2017, 05:44:28 pm »
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Thanks zhen,
I understand your working out but I'm not sure how you got this from your working?
So, h=4 and k=5 or h=8/3 and k=167/27
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14809 on: April 23, 2017, 05:58:21 pm »
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Thanks zhen,
I understand your working out but I'm not sure how you got this from your working?
You need to get the turning points (-1,0) and (1/3,-32/27) to (3,5). h and k are positive horizontal and vertical translations. So basically I do (-1+h,0+k)=(3,5) and (1/3+h,-32/37+k)=(3,5) and solve for h and k.

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14810 on: April 23, 2017, 08:43:29 pm »
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For the function f with domain [0,2pie] f(x)=cos(x-pie/3)
When sketching the graph how do u know the min volume is -1
Is it because there is an invisible 1 in front of the bracket right?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14811 on: April 23, 2017, 08:49:21 pm »
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For the function f with domain [0,2pie] f(x)=cos(x-pie/3)
When sketching the graph how do u know the min volume is -1
Is it because there is an invisible 1 in front of the bracket right?
Yea basically it's because the amplitude is 1 since it's 1cos(x-pi/3). If it was 2cos(x-pi/3) the min would be -2.

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14812 on: April 24, 2017, 03:56:21 pm »
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Can I please get some help with this question?:
Using the product rule, find the derivative with respect to x for: x^-3(x^3-4)^2.
I keep getting the answer as 3/x^4(x^3-4)(2x^2-x^3+4), however the answer is 3/x^4(x^6-16)

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14813 on: April 24, 2017, 05:29:45 pm »
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Can I please get some help with this question?:
Using the product rule, find the derivative with respect to x for: x^-3(x^3-4)^2.
I keep getting the answer as 3/x^4(x^3-4)(2x^2-x^3+4), however the answer is 3/x^4(x^6-16)
I find it easier to expand the second part, so that I don't have to apply chain and product rule. This is how I did it. Hope it helps.  :)







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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14814 on: April 24, 2017, 10:08:44 pm »
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"Find two quadratic functions f and g such that f(1)=0 , g(1)=0 and f(0)=10, g(0)=10 and both have a maximum value of 18."

I've only been able to get this far......

f(x)=k(x-1)(x+a)

g(x)=k(x-1)(x+a)

I tried to use the general form and then find the values through simultaneous equations but in both cases I'm missing a piece of information... (I think it's something to do with with the vertex when y=18, but I'm not sure how to find the x value for it).
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14815 on: April 25, 2017, 02:02:38 am »
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"Find two quadratic functions f and g such that f(1)=0 , g(1)=0 and f(0)=10, g(0)=10 and both have a maximum value of 18."

I've only been able to get this far......

f(x)=k(x-1)(x+a)

g(x)=k(x-1)(x+a)

I tried to use the general form and then find the values through simultaneous equations but in both cases I'm missing a piece of information... (I think it's something to do with with the vertex when y=18, but I'm not sure how to find the x value for it).
















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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14816 on: April 27, 2017, 08:39:53 pm »
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the point on the urve defined by the equation y=(x+3)(x-2) at which the gradien is -7 has coordinates:

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14817 on: April 27, 2017, 08:48:16 pm »
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To find the maximum interval where f(x) is strictly increasing or decreasing, why do we include the value of x where a stationary/s point is?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14818 on: April 27, 2017, 08:54:12 pm »
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the point on the urve defined by the equation y=(x+3)(x-2) at which the gradien is -7 has coordinates:

First it says to find where the gradient is -7, so expand out the brackets (optional but can make it easier in this case) and find the derivative


To find the maximum interval where f(x) is strictly increasing or decreasing, why do we include the value of x where a stationary/s point is?

Because that's the definition of strictly increasing/decreasing. Although it may not technically be increasing/decreasing, we include it for strictly increasing/decreasing (but we wouldn't if it wasn't strictly). It's basically where the gradient doesn't change sign (so gradient can =0)
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14819 on: April 28, 2017, 11:16:16 pm »
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Hi!
Does anyone know of any good methods tutors that give really good notes + guidance + practice sheets? Im in dire need of a tutor so if please me some!
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