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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1560 on: February 07, 2013, 06:49:07 pm »
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Its just solving them simultaneously, but you'll end up with the result in terms of .

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1561 on: February 07, 2013, 07:30:58 pm »
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I understand the simultaneous parts, but not the exclusions.

What can't m be 4? And according to the book, it can't be 0 either?
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1562 on: February 07, 2013, 07:39:42 pm »
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If , you would be dividing by zero.


If , which the author may not consider to be a linear function.

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1563 on: February 07, 2013, 08:42:23 pm »
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Excluding m = 0 is incorrect
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1564 on: February 07, 2013, 08:59:40 pm »
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if m was zero wouldn't it give an unique solution rather than infinite or no solution since its just a straight horizontal line? :o

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1565 on: February 07, 2013, 10:09:51 pm »
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The only other way I can think of is that if you know that you have three x intercepts for a quartic, you also know that if the graph starts from the top then it will leave towards the top too (or starts from the bottom then leaves from the bottom too), as with the other even power graphs.

x(x-1)^2(x+3)(x+5) comes from bottom and leaves from top, how do I know if the graph will leave the opposite direction it came from?

EDIT: sorry realised its not a quartic. How come it looks nothing like a cubic graph?
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1566 on: February 07, 2013, 10:17:22 pm »
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It actually does have the general shape of an odd-power polynomial, if you zoom out enough.

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1567 on: February 07, 2013, 10:32:15 pm »
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but how do I know how to graph it when my graph is zoomed in?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1568 on: February 07, 2013, 10:37:27 pm »
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It actually does have the general shape of an odd-power polynomial, if you zoom out enough.
As Polonius has said https://www.desmos.com/calculator/fpjvrbycqx

But yeh, basically polynomials of powers 3, 5, 7 e.t.c. (odd numbered) may look similar, except there can be more intercepts in that latter than the former. But for these functions, if they enter from the bottom, they'll leave through the top and vice versa. Compared to even function graphs that will enter and leave from either the top or the bottom.

but how do I know how to graph it when my graph is zoomed in?
You zoom out/look at it from further out and scale the axis differently to each other, as in the link above.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1569 on: February 09, 2013, 11:15:46 pm »
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Hey,
How do you find the area of an irregular quadrilateral?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1570 on: February 09, 2013, 11:26:24 pm »
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I'd split it into two triangles, find AC, and use Heron's formula for both
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1571 on: February 09, 2013, 11:28:25 pm »
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I'd split it into two triangles, find AC, and use Heron's formula for both

Thanks, but not really sure what Heron's formula is. Are you expected to know this in methods?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1572 on: February 09, 2013, 11:39:46 pm »
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heron's_formula

Don't need to know it, but it's convenient.

You could alternatively find the angles ABC and ADC, and then use the formula 1/2 bc sin(A) (that's one you do need to know how to use, it's on the formula sheet in the exams).
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1573 on: February 10, 2013, 12:33:52 am »
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Heron's formula is one of those 'sure, why not'. It's really not that hard to memorise.

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1574 on: February 11, 2013, 07:59:15 pm »
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for the graph y=-[(2)/(5-3x)-1], how has it been dilated?